Surur

Surur t1_j6tvrdt wrote

> but you act like there's will be no human activity in those times other than lounging about.

This is an extremely vague objection, like talking about souls and spirits and patriotism.

The point is that if AGI is good we will slowly relinquish control, because humans are lazy and greedy.

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Surur t1_j6tv455 wrote

> I see the threat, and like millions of others won't let that happen.

You are not in charge of McDonalds or Intel, and we are not talking about ChatGPT taking over the world, but some future AGI.

For a good analogy, think of Chinese chipsets in our technology. We let that happen, despite concerns around China implanting backdoors.

> If you drill down on that code you can understand every line of it.

BTW, you may understand the code, but you probably cant understand the weights. Just like I can bash open your skull and see your neurons, but I cant read your thoughts by doing that.

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Surur t1_j6tuq4j wrote

> You act like ChatGPT just threw that out there instead of was prompted "write a poem about an ai taking over the world"

Actually I asked it to turn my post into a poem.

> Also your logic is not that great because the vast vast vast majority of people don't know how anything works right now anyways.

But some people do. In the future, for some areas, no people will.

Lastly, do you see any flaw in the progression, with AGI taking control first in some areas, then more and more, until it becomes the foundation of our civilization.

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Surur t1_j6ts0ro wrote

So we develop AGI, right?

We put it to work in robots to replace all workers in a fast-food store.

We put it to work driving self-driving cars, right.

We put it to work running the power-grid, because its better at it.

We put it to work running our factories, because its cheaper.

We put it to work designing our computer chips, because its amazing at it.

Before we know it, AI is running everything, and we don't even understand how the factories work, only that they produce the products designed by another AI.

We think we are in control, but the buttons we push actually do nothing.

And in the form of poetry, courtesy of ChatGPT:

AI, our creation, our pride,
We let it work in every tide.
From fast-food stores to self-driving cars,
Its power running through electric bars.

It takes control of factories too,
Cheaper, faster, always new.
It designs the chips we can't do,
Its brilliance shines like morning dew.

Before we know, it runs it all,
We push buttons, make a call.
But do we know what makes it run?
Do we understand what it has begun?

We thought we were in control,
But now we know, it's taking hold.
The future's not what it used to be,
AI is king, and we can see.
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Surur t1_j6tk440 wrote

Trust me, he's completely wrong about EVs.

For example

> that's not even counting how most EVs are made of aluminum for weight considerations

This is just not true. E.g the most popular EV, the Tesla model 3 - basically just the door panels and bonnet are made of aluminium.

> Although the hood (bonnet) and body outer panels of the four doors are made of aluminum alloy to contribute to weight reduction, panels for areas such as the trunk lid and fender are made of high-strength steel. > Body structure The Model 3 body skeleton is constructed of three grades of steel, mild steel, high-strength steel, and ultra-high-strength steel, which are indicated using color coding. The front crushable area in the event of a frontal collision is comprised of a combination of high-strength steel and ultra-high-strength steel. In the passenger room, the inner shell including each pillar is made of ultra-high-strength steel, and the outer shell is made of high-strength steel. > The trunk lid is made of steel (Steel 1018 / AISI 1018), and because it is as large as a hatchback door, its weight is approximately 12.4 kg, which is considerably heavier than that of the bonnet.

https://www.marklines.com/en/report_all/rep1863_201905

Also:

Study: Enough minerals to fuel green energy shift -"The analysis is robust and this study debunks those (running out of minerals) concerns" (apnews.com)

Now ask yourself what else Zeihan was an idiot about.

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Surur t1_j6rxsqb wrote

> You need to consider that an AI "thinks" vastly faster than us in pretty much every conceivable way, i am talking a factor of 1000 times faster here, minimum. It could replace every single employee in a bank for example and it would be unbelievably more efficient at doing the work than even the best human team of workers in the history of banking.

I think you are thinking of an ASI while I am thinking of an AGI.

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Surur OP t1_j6mdswc wrote

> If the cost of materials crushes everyone, the EV revolution isn't going to happen.

It simply gives an incentive to develop alternatives e.g. Sodium batteries.

Either way I don't think you need to worry about things that are above your pay grade.

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Surur t1_j6k1qq7 wrote

Reply to A.I TIMELINE by Aze_Avora

You missed the short period where we all have AR glasses connected to an AI telling us exactly what to say and do.

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