Surur
Surur t1_j6tvrdt wrote
Reply to comment by Iffykindofguy in Why do people think they might witness AGI taking over the world in a singularity? by purepersistence
> but you act like there's will be no human activity in those times other than lounging about.
This is an extremely vague objection, like talking about souls and spirits and patriotism.
The point is that if AGI is good we will slowly relinquish control, because humans are lazy and greedy.
Surur t1_j6tv455 wrote
Reply to comment by purepersistence in Why do people think they might witness AGI taking over the world in a singularity? by purepersistence
> I see the threat, and like millions of others won't let that happen.
You are not in charge of McDonalds or Intel, and we are not talking about ChatGPT taking over the world, but some future AGI.
For a good analogy, think of Chinese chipsets in our technology. We let that happen, despite concerns around China implanting backdoors.
> If you drill down on that code you can understand every line of it.
BTW, you may understand the code, but you probably cant understand the weights. Just like I can bash open your skull and see your neurons, but I cant read your thoughts by doing that.
Surur t1_j6tuq4j wrote
Reply to comment by Iffykindofguy in Why do people think they might witness AGI taking over the world in a singularity? by purepersistence
> You act like ChatGPT just threw that out there instead of was prompted "write a poem about an ai taking over the world"
Actually I asked it to turn my post into a poem.
> Also your logic is not that great because the vast vast vast majority of people don't know how anything works right now anyways.
But some people do. In the future, for some areas, no people will.
Lastly, do you see any flaw in the progression, with AGI taking control first in some areas, then more and more, until it becomes the foundation of our civilization.
Surur t1_j6ts0ro wrote
Reply to Why do people think they might witness AGI taking over the world in a singularity? by purepersistence
So we develop AGI, right?
We put it to work in robots to replace all workers in a fast-food store.
We put it to work driving self-driving cars, right.
We put it to work running the power-grid, because its better at it.
We put it to work running our factories, because its cheaper.
We put it to work designing our computer chips, because its amazing at it.
Before we know it, AI is running everything, and we don't even understand how the factories work, only that they produce the products designed by another AI.
We think we are in control, but the buttons we push actually do nothing.
And in the form of poetry, courtesy of ChatGPT:
AI, our creation, our pride,
We let it work in every tide.
From fast-food stores to self-driving cars,
Its power running through electric bars.
It takes control of factories too,
Cheaper, faster, always new.
It designs the chips we can't do,
Its brilliance shines like morning dew.
Before we know, it runs it all,
We push buttons, make a call.
But do we know what makes it run?
Do we understand what it has begun?
We thought we were in control,
But now we know, it's taking hold.
The future's not what it used to be,
AI is king, and we can see.
Surur t1_j6tl1sg wrote
Reply to comment by Visual_Ad_8202 in What is your opinion of what is going to happen between AGI and Singularity. by CertainMiddle2382
> A few people have correctly pointed that massive amounts of investment dollars are leaving the space as Boomers move their money into safe shit like TBills.
"A few people" being Zeihan, who's pretty stupid.
Surur t1_j6tk440 wrote
Reply to comment by SansSanctity in What is your opinion of what is going to happen between AGI and Singularity. by CertainMiddle2382
Trust me, he's completely wrong about EVs.
For example
> that's not even counting how most EVs are made of aluminum for weight considerations
This is just not true. E.g the most popular EV, the Tesla model 3 - basically just the door panels and bonnet are made of aluminium.
> Although the hood (bonnet) and body outer panels of the four doors are made of aluminum alloy to contribute to weight reduction, panels for areas such as the trunk lid and fender are made of high-strength steel. > Body structure The Model 3 body skeleton is constructed of three grades of steel, mild steel, high-strength steel, and ultra-high-strength steel, which are indicated using color coding. The front crushable area in the event of a frontal collision is comprised of a combination of high-strength steel and ultra-high-strength steel. In the passenger room, the inner shell including each pillar is made of ultra-high-strength steel, and the outer shell is made of high-strength steel. > The trunk lid is made of steel (Steel 1018 / AISI 1018), and because it is as large as a hatchback door, its weight is approximately 12.4 kg, which is considerably heavier than that of the bonnet.
https://www.marklines.com/en/report_all/rep1863_201905
Also:
Now ask yourself what else Zeihan was an idiot about.
Surur t1_j6rxsqb wrote
Reply to comment by Bierculles in What is your opinion of what is going to happen between AGI and Singularity. by CertainMiddle2382
> You need to consider that an AI "thinks" vastly faster than us in pretty much every conceivable way, i am talking a factor of 1000 times faster here, minimum. It could replace every single employee in a bank for example and it would be unbelievably more efficient at doing the work than even the best human team of workers in the history of banking.
I think you are thinking of an ASI while I am thinking of an AGI.
Surur t1_j6rfaex wrote
Reply to comment by TopicRepulsive7936 in What is your opinion of what is going to happen between AGI and Singularity. by CertainMiddle2382
> not about the possibility of the Moon being cheese instead.
Lol. Good point.
Surur t1_j6rf8v0 wrote
Reply to comment by TheSecretAgenda in What is your opinion of what is going to happen between AGI and Singularity. by CertainMiddle2382
Sure it could replace the manager, but it would require a super-human AI to replace all the workers.
Surur t1_j6re9qq wrote
Reply to comment by TheSecretAgenda in What is your opinion of what is going to happen between AGI and Singularity. by CertainMiddle2382
I mean $200 per day per brain, so it would not replace workers earning less per day (say in Indonesia).
Surur t1_j6rdeb4 wrote
Reply to comment by TheSecretAgenda in What is your opinion of what is going to happen between AGI and Singularity. by CertainMiddle2382
AGIs may come slowly if they are very resource-intensive. Say it costs $200 per day to run a brain-equivalent and massive server farms then it may not take over as fast as one would expect.
Surur t1_j6raa8a wrote
Reply to What is your opinion of what is going to happen between AGI and Singularity. by CertainMiddle2382
Because it will take a special effort to make an ASI (more resources) it will not happen by accident. So it should be possible to have AGI and not ASI. But it should take a specific agreement and a lot of cooperation from everyone around the world, which seems unlikely.
Surur t1_j6pfynv wrote
Reply to comment by Aeredor in At what point do you expect surface combatant ships to become obsolete? Is there any paticular key system thay might be the cause of this obsolescence? by BluntBastard
I think it's notable that Russia is having difficulty with their naval fleet due to the very few long-range missiles Ukraine has.
Surur OP t1_j6nkirv wrote
Reply to comment by phenompbg in Study: Enough minerals to fuel green energy shift -"The analysis is robust and this study debunks those (running out of minerals) concerns" by Surur
It's a waste of time having a discussion with a delusional person.
Surur OP t1_j6mdswc wrote
Reply to comment by WinterTires in Study: Enough minerals to fuel green energy shift -"The analysis is robust and this study debunks those (running out of minerals) concerns" by Surur
> If the cost of materials crushes everyone, the EV revolution isn't going to happen.
It simply gives an incentive to develop alternatives e.g. Sodium batteries.
Either way I don't think you need to worry about things that are above your pay grade.
Surur OP t1_j6m3avn wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Study: Enough minerals to fuel green energy shift -"The analysis is robust and this study debunks those (running out of minerals) concerns" by Surur
Look, you are obviously an uninformed dinosaur lol.
Surur OP t1_j6m0n69 wrote
Surur OP t1_j6m0e5k wrote
Reply to comment by 12threefall in Study: Enough minerals to fuel green energy shift -"The analysis is robust and this study debunks those (running out of minerals) concerns" by Surur
> mineral demands for batteries is much more complicated than for electric power and that’s what the team will do next
Exactly, so I have no idea why you are wasting my time.
Surur OP t1_j6kq82g wrote
Reply to comment by 12threefall in Study: Enough minerals to fuel green energy shift -"The analysis is robust and this study debunks those (running out of minerals) concerns" by Surur
This study does not address batteries, making your comment off-topic.
Surur OP t1_j6kif4w wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Study: Enough minerals to fuel green energy shift -"The analysis is robust and this study debunks those (running out of minerals) concerns" by Surur
Is this based on any information, or do you suck this stuff from your "source"?
Surur OP t1_j6kdvqq wrote
Reply to comment by Margincall1975 in Study: Enough minerals to fuel green energy shift -"The analysis is robust and this study debunks those (running out of minerals) concerns" by Surur
Actually, the Congo does not exist.
Surur t1_j6k1qq7 wrote
Reply to A.I TIMELINE by Aze_Avora
You missed the short period where we all have AR glasses connected to an AI telling us exactly what to say and do.
Surur t1_j6k0ejh wrote
Reply to European researchers are developing tech to let people have robotic third arms controlled with their brain's spare neural capacity by lughnasadh
Surely, you need 2 extra hands, for balance, unless the 3rd is attached to your butt, like a scorpion tail...
Surur OP t1_j6jzgh2 wrote
Reply to comment by VitaminPb in Study: Enough minerals to fuel green energy shift -"The analysis is robust and this study debunks those (running out of minerals) concerns" by Surur
You know, it always reminds me of Tasty Wheat.
Surur t1_j6tyxte wrote
Reply to comment by Iffykindofguy in Why do people think they might witness AGI taking over the world in a singularity? by purepersistence
> Humans arent really lazy or greedy
I think you are very divorced from reality.