New is correct. And I'll go check them out. Thanks.

Thanks, I hate it. What an insanely predatory system. I'm glad you got reimbursed and sorry you had to go through that.

Seems like the thing to do. I hope they won't, I've put off the surgery for a year already because they did this last time.

You're welcome!

Waiting on a call back from them now. Thanks for your help.

Of course not. I super do too. I worked in Healthcare for years and never heard of this.

Then they want you to pay the "estimate" of what your insurance won't cover, I'd talk to your insurance company and also call Cox Patient Assistance today.

I used to work outpatient registration at Cox and pre payment is on fact a thing. However, you don’t need to pay anything up front if you’re not able to. They won’t turn you away or anything. I’m like you, I always wait for insurance to do it’s thing first.9

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Thank you! I'm doing this now!

Thank you a ton! They sure were pushy about it.

I sure do.

Very much appreciate this. Gonna be giving them a call back shortly to say this exact thing.

I stopped taking ambien!

My problem used to be that I couldn't take melatonin for more than a few days in a row and then it would stop working altogether for like a week (same with benadryl, plus that one makes me feel like shit the next day). Ambien did the job without the need to stop taking it for a while, but I was always uncomfortable taking it since everyone was always so weary about it.

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Nowadays I take CBN gummies with melatonin and at least for the past.... 4 months I have been having the best sleep of my life. It works also if I take melatonin separately and vape some indica flower (I get the ones that have higher CBN levels) just before heading to bed. After switching to that, I've been able to even wake up early in the morning feeling well rested and alert.

Is your surgeon going to offer some assurance as to the outcome of the surgery? I'm guessing not.

I super hate our health care system.

I just had a minor outpatient surgery at Mercy. On the online portal it made it seem like I had to pay prior to the surgery. But when I checked in for the surgery I said I wanted to wait until my insurance processed it so that I knew exactly what I was paying for, rather than just the general estimate given prior to the surgery. You can’t be required to pay upfront but they make it sound like you do. Hope this helps! Hoping for a smooth and quick recovery for you!

They will want you to either pay upfront in cash or credit card, or get on a payment plan with them. I'd suggest calling Cox back and asking them what options they have for financing.

Healthcare in the United States is a dumpster fire, so I wish you all the best.

And run the tests

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Cox is the worst demanding money. You DO NOT have to pay up front. Don’t let them talk you into it. Get on a payment plan after surgery. Keep track of every payment as well.

Do you have insurance?

They do this for scheduled baby deliverys as well. Went through having to pay 3k+ up front, even though it was all reimbursed by insurance after the fact. Kind of a backwards system.

Probably they want to cover incidentals or unforeseen events that aren't covered. Instead of hounding you for the cash they think they deserve they already have it to withhold from you.

It's a thing, Mercy does this too. They want you to pay for what they estimate your insurance won't cover.

OP should contact Cox's Patient Assistance Program and check with their insurance company about what will be covered.

I didn't think so but it was a call from the office of the surgeon directly. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is a bit wild.

What? Rescheduled or cancelled? Can they do that?