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budtoast t1_je21z9m wrote

Reply to comment by LeeOblivious in Residents prohibited from consuming marijuana in public under Springfield council proposal by LeeOblivious

Haha potentially, honestly I’m nervous for that because they could label it “inappropriate intoxication” while I’m viewing it as “taking the medicine my doctor told me I should try.”

But I don’t think that will happen soon if it does. Weed was just recently legalized recreationally so, I think the wrinkles will take a bit of time to be smoothed out. And medical use is still considered separate from recreational use, so we’ll see how things go. Because I can’t walk well without it, I don’t ever “look” high and I don’t ever act high in public either

Also thank you for clarifying- I didn’t think you judged harshly but I did want to throw my two cents in regarding the perception of addicts.

I actually do my best to make sure my belongings and everything in my house don’t smell after making edibles, because it’s like baking. Now everything in your house smells like weed. Premade edibles are very expensive so I can’t afford those- so my clothes and belongings usually really reek. It’s something I’m a bit self conscious about. I don’t want people to think I’m an addict because I’m trying to have pain relief, basically. It’s really annoying because some people will smell it and make jokes, but I’m actually really paranoid people judge me harshly.

Your complaints make sense. It’s weird that they are ok with tobacco but not MJ. I say keep both of them in designated smoking areas. If you want to smoke in public, go to the place where you can. But I don’t know, I’m not an expert on these things lol.

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budtoast t1_je1v1gk wrote

Reply to comment by inadril in I see your “everything is Jewish” posts and I raise you the worst I’ve ever seen by sammyf0712

Nope, you assumed what I meant by “them.”

I did bring up the right. Because they exist and they are most relevant here

I brought up that BOTH parties are not to be listened to. Especially republicans in this circumstance. You claimed that I was specifically talking about only republicans.

I did not change any goalposts and if I did, point out where. My point has always been the same. I’m apolitical, and anyone with eyes can see that the bags prey on conservative values. I encourage you to go back through the comments, because I did, and I’m noticing the sheer amount of times you just conviently ignored every point I make while I try to actually discuss your’s.

So who’s really debating here?

You didn’t address anything I said or highlighted, as expected. I did not put any words in your mouth, but you certainly have been doing that.

You’re still busy thinking about what YOU think I believe. You assumed so much about me from the beginning. Meanwhile I used if statements and openly said I am not sure what your political beliefs are, but that trying to get people to listen to republicans is a bad idea.

> “If you agree with those who disagree with me now, I’m nervous for your future. You’ve had ample time to listen to those on the left and change your perspective. If you’re not more center after that, I’m afraid you didn’t listen.”

When I said this, I’m not directly calling you a conservative, nor am I virtue signaling. I gave an example of harmful beliefs I had in the past and how I disavow them. If someone doesn’t disavow them in this day and age, I’m concerned for them. And I believe that if you truly want to listen to people like you say, you’d end up being more center than one way leaning. And my statement started with “If” which means, “IF you hold conservative beliefs…” (this is to point out that I never called you in particular a conservative)

Your comment was this in direct reference to specifically conservatives:

>”I see you don’t pay attention to those who don’t agree with you”

You are encouraging people to give republicans a chance, are you not? If you are not, tell me. I’ve said this entire time, I’m apolitical, I don’t think you should be trying to encourage people to listen to any one side, and if you are you’d be a hypocrite for leaning a specific way.

Here is where I think you’re trying to claim I’m a liar. You had this conversation before this:

>”Every republican accusation is a confession”

>”Same could be said of any political leaning”

>”No the fuck it can’t”

Then you say your part of listening to them, hearing them out, saying that this person is stupid for ignoring republican values. (“I see you don’t pay attention to people who don’t agree with you”) I chime in saying my piece, which is to break down the idea that we have to listen to the parties at all. And that in these circumstances, speaking up about “paying attention” to republicans on a post involving targeting republican opinions, I am worried for you. Especially if you’re someone who is apolitical and wanting to reject the parties altogether. That’s genuine worry because, again, as you seem to agree- the parties are echo chambers.

You decided to take what I said and assume virtue signaling and lying and making you look bad. You look fine. No one cares about how you look. No one is even looking at this thread

I’m trying to understand why you decided to go in circles and ignore the point this entire time. But I think it’s just because you can’t deny that these bags do, in fact, target conservatives. Don’t listen to them. Don’t give them a chance to “broaden your horizons.”

Anyone who calls themselves “conservative”, “republican”, “democrat”, “liberal” etc is obviously extremely party affiliated and therefore, their opinion is likely surrounded by echo chambers. I believe you’ve been trying to say that same thing but in a more esoteric way, as if I need to be enlightened by the position that the parties are nonsense. I know that.

This is from my first few replies to you:

>”You can be against the left. But if you think conservatives are against authoritarian ideals enough to try and defend them here, you’re just factually wrong (hence “if you’re not more center after that, you didn’t listen” from my first comment to you)”

I think my point was made fairly well during the beginning. Perhaps I should have said “defend listening to them here” but I’m afraid that’s a bit nit picky. You seemed to be defending the idea of hearing out republican opinions, saying “you don’t pay attention to anyone you disagree with.” I said “I don’t listen to party affiliated people, especially republicans because they are for authoritarian values” and now you’re trying to break down my debate style and tell me what I believe or something regarding the parties. If you disagree with this assessment, tell me how and why.

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MiwestGirl t1_je17rs5 wrote

Reply to comment by Ok_Salamander_1633 in Cops at kickapoo by doctorbaloney4204

I’m the 1950’s they did have all of the automatic rifles. Also the gun organizations were not political lobbyists as they are today. The ban on automatic rifles significantly reduced gun deaths until it expired in 2004. Most cities murder records were set in 1991. St. Louis being one of them. Even today St. Louis still has less murders than it had in the early 90’s. The numbers don’t lie. Less automatic rifles equal less murders. The three countries with constitutional gun rights all have high gun death rates. I think going back to what we had between 1994 and 2004 is the way to reduce gun deaths. It worked once and can work again.

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