Recent comments in /f/springfieldMO

budtoast t1_jdy50v9 wrote

That’s my entire point as well. But you’re the one here trying to deny the reality that conservatives do in fact say authoritarian things. I’m trying to say both parties are harmful. You’re essentially saying “it depends.” Also these packets openly associate themselves with conservative beliefs- all of the packets are sentiments that are shared with conservatives.

If you want to consider this a debate you can, but I am simply here to explain my perspective as you said we should do for one another. I didn’t create or knock down any strawmen. Ironically, we could say you’ve been creating strawmen as well if we really want to. You mention me talking about “they” and I’m talking about everyone. Anyone on all sides wants to push for this. There are authoritarians everywhere, regardless of party. YOU are applying beliefs to ME. Neither of us are affiliated with any party.

It takes a bag of rice like this to begin that decent. It is easier if the opinions of the person you’re targeting already mostly align with the opinions you’re pushing. These bags are anti-immigration, anti-abortion, anti-LGBT, etc. The left is not any of those things, but the right is. My end point is that it is easier to radicalize those who already hold similar beliefs. A pro life person will be more likely to pick up an “everything about abortion is jewish” packet compared to a pro choice person.

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Kodysoldmyhome t1_jdy2agn wrote

If you've got your heart sent on new construction

Oller building Co (currently building in Ozark and SW Springfield)

Bussell building co (nixa , battlefield and republic)

C&L builders (ozark)

Turner/wolf development (nixa , willard and ozark)

I've been a realtor in our market for 8 years and these are the builders I'd reccomend.

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inadril t1_jdy1ff2 wrote

First, debating is exactly you’re doing. I responded to someone laying the original post squarely at the feet of one political party that encompasses nearly half the country. You apparently took issue with the response to a vulgarly dismissed observable counterpoint and have been throwing up straw men to virtue signal and guilt into supporting a one sided subjective opinion.

Second, “the nazis and the holocaust are separate things”? Objectively false and irrelevant.

Third, “they” absolutely do not “think it’s a good idea”. The great evil “they” accuse each other of being nazis. The point you’re struggling to make is refuted by the mainstreaming of accusations of nazism for policy disputes on all sides.

And lastly, I have neither defended nor associated with any party. Because I see what happens to parties. I see what people like you do to parties. Both in the present and through recorded history. Besides, those refusing to associate in an “us vs them” get treated as “them” by both anyway, so why bother? Case in point, disagreeing with you somehow means I’m defending your conservatives.

My entire point was and has been, that no singular party or group is the problem. Because the same things are said by and about every party.

Which was ignored to be “concerned” about “defending” a group that “supports nazi ideals”. Which means guilt and browbeat.

But you have made very good points to all the straw men. I’m sure their remnants are convinced of the error of their ways now.

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beefbaby79 t1_jdxwijw wrote

I do contract work for every trendsetter neighborhood in republic and nixa, there is no chance I would ever buy a house that has their name on it. If there is a way to cut costs they've found it but somehow don't pass the savings on to you. Op I would say steer clear.

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Nasaltron t1_jdxks9d wrote

With all due respect, this is antiquated advice. Commercial street has all the best spots in town for food, antiques, and drinks and it's no more dangerous than downtown, which is to say, not really dangerous at all. It's reputation may have been deserved at one point, but not for the last decade.

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