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_ism_ t1_jdrh6x8 wrote

I went to catholic school and a very sheltered, conservative family too actually. I've been unlearning a lot of stuff my whole life too. We didn't discuss things this taboo explicitly the way I gew up so the messages were probably very subtle.

But I do remember learning about things like racism in school and going home and starting to point out ways I caught my family being racist for example and started to see the idiosync in their behavior vs what they preach. I wish I remembered more of my awakening in detail. I remember being punished and taken to counseling for some sexuality musings they found in my journal too. By the time I was 16 I had a plan to work and save money to move out at 18 and was just 100% disgusted with my family and school and feeling really unsafe there. Somehow I escaped.

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I think my point is that my questioning and need to point out injustice didn't vibe with my family's values but that felt gross enough for me to be willing to throw away their conditional "love and protection" and fend for myself.

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budtoast t1_jdrffpu wrote

The ways THIS is being implemented yeah- I have known some people with straight up N-zi sentiments who wouldn’t pick this up because it’s “egregious.” It has the “vibes” of something created in a mental crisis.

The people who are really dangerous are the ones who don’t openly say these opinions and don’t type them up to post around town. They do like to spread these ideas anonymously and through their familial ties, but this makes you seem crazy. If you were to make bags of rice spreading any political opinion people will suspect that opinion is crazy. But they’re trying to do their part for their beliefs I guess… ugh.

This is another level of something I’ve seen plenty of times here in the rural Midwest. This is just the most OPEN I’ve ever witnessed out of anywhere I’ve ever lived. Springfield is better than where I’ve lived before, but it is only located a few hours away. And a lot of people I knew there had really harmful ideas. Hopefully people here will be able to recognize when harmful ideas are being pushed on them

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budtoast t1_jdr9gyj wrote

For me personally… I grew up in a really conservative household… I know firsthand that these kinds of ideas sneak in right under your nose. >!I used to believe that the Holocaust was bad but the N-zis did a lot for Germany to help them.!< This is something my dad repeats regularly and he had convinced me of. I now know that’s not true, but the fact that these ideas can sort of exist and silently spread freaks me out.

I didn’t know it was spreading on me for years until people told me. As far as I know, my family and the others I knew at my Catholic private school were considered normal in the community. People didn’t treat them any different, but they also didn’t always openly say these things.

Edit: Anyways, that’s how they expect the ideas to spread. Those types of communities and people hiding what they believe and only openly saying it like this- anonymously

Edit 2: Also people don’t usually like to discuss politics. You’d never know, unless you brought it up, that your friend believes objectively wrong things

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_ism_ t1_jdr903d wrote

I can't wrap my head around how they expect these ideas to spread. Normal people like us are sitting here rolling our eyes. And yet, we see this shit is spreading so your fear is valid. I just wish I knew the key to how these organizations convert people to their ideology because it seems to require a LOT of brain gymnastics to get there. I have an overactive brain for a living and all my thought experiments do not lead me to a place of hate, it makes no sense.

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red_baa_ron t1_jdr8fxo wrote

They're trying to activate people to look into it by visiting their propaganda website and joining their group. I don't think "normal" people would engage with this, not even your average local conservative person who may harbor some bias. But I do think this is dangerous because it is more likely to activate the person who is already looking for a way to feel accepted for these types of fringe views. I think those people can become dangerous with the right grooming by these groups. (Notice I said "grooming" because this is actually a situation where it fits.)

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