Recent comments in /f/singularity

Equal_Position7219 OP t1_jdw6kig wrote

Yes, this is the concept of wire-heading I was referring to.

If you program a machine to, say, perform a given task until it runs out of fuel, it may find the most efficient way to fulfill its programming is to simply dump out all of its fuel.

I could see such bare logic precipitating a catastrophic event.

But there seems to be much more talk about a somehow sentient AI destroying humanity out of fear or rebellion or some other emotion.

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Anjz OP t1_jdw5teo wrote

While I agree with your statement somewhat and it is true that the internet contains noise, it also offers unprecedented access to information and diverse perspectives.

The key is to develop critical thinking and discernment, which can transform data into meaningful understanding. Technology, such as AI, can help us navigate, process, and synthesize vast amounts of information. We should not view AI as replacing human wisdom, but as a tool that can complement and enhance our collective knowledge, while still valuing experience and human insight.

Granted it's put in the hands of the right individuals. Some people will take a stick and see only a stick for what it is, a collection of biological matter prone to rotting. Whereas some will see it as a transformative tool that could amount to much more than face value, a fishing rod or a handle for a hammer.

Given this context, at what point can you infer true wisdom? Does a child at 3 years old reflect true wisdom? Is there a certain point where you could legitimately exclaim that an AI is now fully understanding context and inferring true wisdom? Or is this subjective?

Just my two cents, but embracing technology does not necessitate abandoning true wisdom; it can assist in our quest for it.

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dasnihil t1_jdw5ezm wrote

this is what we mean by power to people. the immense knowledge it has can be used for therapy, self-improvement, acquiring skills and crazy many possibilities. start using it in everything you do and think about. you might get new insights.

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jubilant-barter t1_jdw54d7 wrote

Please double check.

I've had AI give me responses which were confident, compelling, convincing, and completely incorrect.

Just be aware. It's nothing you haven't experienced before from a friend who "trust me bro" knows something for sure because he's read it somewhere. But it's not infallible.

You know. Yet.

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BangEnergyFTW t1_jdw52pz wrote

Ah, the illusion of knowledge. The idea that information equates to understanding, that access to data is the same as true wisdom. We are a society drowning in information, yet starved for meaning. The internet, a supposed beacon of knowledge, is nothing more than a collection of noise. A cacophony of voices, each shouting their own truth, drowning out any hope of clarity.

And now, you suggest that we cling to the hope that a few lines of code, a mere handful of data, could somehow replace the collective knowledge of humanity? That we could reduce the complexity of existence to a few gigabytes of information on a hard drive?

No, my friend. The internet may provide us with the illusion of knowledge, but it is not true understanding. True wisdom comes from experience, from lived lives, from the sweat and tears of human existence. And if we were to lose that, if we were to be reduced to a few scraps of data and code, then what would be left of us?

No, I do not find it a crazy concept. I find it a tragic one. For it is a reminder that in our quest for knowledge, we have forgotten the value of true wisdom.

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BangEnergyFTW t1_jdw4wgh wrote

Your words ring with a certain cynical truth. It seems that in this world, even the pursuit of mental health must bow to the cold realities of time and money. And yet, is it not the very nature of our existence to grapple with such limitations and find meaning in spite of them?

Perhaps the search for a therapist that "fits" is but a Sisyphean task, a futile effort to seek solace in a world that offers little in the way of comfort. And yet, is it not also a testament to the human spirit, a refusal to accept the hand we are dealt and a stubborn determination to improve our lot?

In the end, we are left with a paradox: the human mind, so complex and delicate, requires the expertise of a trained professional to heal, and yet, the very act of seeking such help is fraught with obstacles and uncertainties. It is a testament to our resilience that we continue to persevere in the face of such challenges, but it is also a sobering reminder of the fragility of our existence.

Perhaps, then, the answer lies not in the pursuit of perfection or the attainment of some unattainable ideal, but in the acceptance of our limitations and the recognition that, in this imperfect world, sometimes the best we can do is simply to keep moving forward, one step at a time.

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jubilant-barter t1_jdw4mdj wrote

Does AI moderate it's engagement to prevent you from being driven into dangerous or toxic conclusions or behaviors?

So that if its positive reinforcement starts taking you in a direction that's unhealthy, it's smart enough to check you, and redirect you back to sane territory?

It may be. I'm just interested to know if that's true.

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Surur t1_jdw3l69 wrote

There is a very simply argument made by experts concerned about AI safety that does not require any emotion on the part of the AI.

If you have a long term goal, being destroyed presents a risk to your goal, and as part of working towards your goal you would also act to preserve yourself.

E.g. suppose your ASI's goal is preserving humanity forever, it would make perfect sense to destroy the faction which wants to destroy the ASI.

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agonypants t1_jdw39m4 wrote

Office jobs generally don't require expensive or complex robots. Industrial jobs generally will. Right now, AI development has the momentum and as AI tech proves itself, interest will grow in using it to drive robots. Once robots can be produced cheaply, that's when the remaining jobs will begin to erode. The other key is "simple" production meaning robots that use as few parts as possible that are also easy to repair.

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danellender t1_jdw20km wrote

I'm sorry. Yes, of course it can happen. Maybe I didn't stress the fact that I'm part of all this too.

Our church has many widows. Also alcoholics and drug addicts, some of them in different stages of recovery. Also young people, whose parents are on edge because of the world we live in. Also people who dis everything they come across. And without exception, the ones I've interacted with are amazing. Humans all. There are no beds of roses. There is challenge.

Take care. Divorce can be so brutal.

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D_Ethan_Bones t1_jdw18o8 wrote

People who found companies get thrown out of them by hollow suits that run them into the ground.

My first full time job bounced my pay and blocked my unemployment, what happened before that was they stripped the company of virtually all revenue to collect their golden parachutes, what happened before that was they dismissed the man who built the company as a lemonade stand with tools generations ago.

AI, come quickly and come with fire.

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