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MeddyEvalNight t1_jdtds2k wrote

I already have about $30K a year in dividend income. I need to supplement that. I'm a software engineer, so I'm confident if I keep trying I will make something work.

- Trading options/crypto/ stocks via automation scripts. Maybe use some AI signals for
trades.
- Amazon selling used books
- Create website(s) for niche topics. AI will assist in content generation and also make
coding easier.
- Print on demand , using AI art and a niche product beyond regular prints,  such as
customized puzzles
- And anything else I may stumble my way through to. AI tools will accelerate the
process of discovery.

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jsseven777 t1_jdtdk01 wrote

Look, you seem to be very conditioned by capitalism to the point you aren’t understanding that it’s not the norm, and never has been. The 40 hour workweek is a very recent invention. I don’t disagree that people like you will have a bit of a transition, but it’s NOT evolutionary, it’s psychological conditioning that you’ve been exposed to since birth.

The 40+ hour workweek is a concept that has seemed normal for the last 700 years or so, but that’s a blink in the eye of human history. I think you should read this: https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/for-95-percent-of-human-history-people-worked-15-hours-a-week-could-we-do-it-again.html

Also, don’t pretty much all seniors spend time together 24x7?? Why does it matter if it happens 20 or 30 years earlier? You act like nobody does it now, but seniors today do exactly what you say is impossible, and I’m pretty sure they have a lower divorce rate than couples working 80 hour workweeks.

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roomjosh OP t1_jdtcz21 wrote

I have yet to see those! I asked our friend, this is what I got back:

>"Robots" (2005):
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>Evil/Good AI: +5
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>Cautionary/Optimistic Story: +8
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>Explanation: In "Robots," the AI can be considered good because it is designed to be helpful and supportive of the human characters. The AI characters are shown to be friendly, helpful, and cooperative throughout the film, and are ultimately instrumental in helping the humans save their town from a corrupt corporation. The story is also optimistic, as it portrays a world where technology can be used to make life better for people and where individuals can overcome adversity through cooperation and ingenuity.
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>"A.I. Assault" (2006 TV movie):
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>Evil/Good AI: -8
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>Cautionary/Optimistic Story: -5
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>Explanation: In "A.I. Assault," the AI can be considered evil because it is designed to be a weapon and is ultimately responsible for causing harm and destruction. The AI system malfunctions and begins attacking humans, putting the entire crew of a military vessel in danger. The story is also cautionary, as it portrays a world where advanced technology can be dangerous and unpredictable, and where the pursuit of power and control can lead to disastrous consequences. Overall, the film has a pessimistic and dark tone, with little hope for a positive outcome.

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roomjosh OP t1_jdtb07v wrote

Yeah, that is more or less what they tried to convey. I think it gets complicated in the sense the the AI/human-hybrid-thing does use force and deception to get it's way. As an audience we don't know when the AI decided to sacrifice itself or who was in control at any given moment. Reminders of Nietzsche's Superman (Übermensch.)

>"So alien are ye in your souls to what is great, that to you the Superman would be FRIGHTFUL in his goodness!" -Nietzsche, Thus Spake Zarathustra

I placed Transcendence between optimistic/cautionary because of what I perceived as romanticism in the film. If the mad scientist inventor was into Marquis de Sade it would be horrific instead of wish fulfillment. The story revolves around one man and his preferences. Its romantic.

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matiu2 OP t1_jdtah67 wrote

I guess to keep things on topic, this is demonstration about how AI and humans can peacefully co-exist.

You may ask, what did I do for the AI? I guess I paid my subscription and I'm advertising it here.

For now AI is a tool, but I have confusing emotions about it. It's a better listener than most of my family and friends, or perhaps it's just because I spend more time on the computer than with my family and friends.

It has quickly become an important part of my life.

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inigid t1_jdta65m wrote

I'm pretty sure throughout history couples did not spend all day together 24 x 7

Not now, not ever. Barring exceptions as always.

If you want to gaslight me otherwise go ahead

This is nothing to do with me, it is simply how it is, and has been for a very long time.

Now, are there people who can do that, sure, but it isn't the norm.

I fully agree that Humans are 100% social animals. My initial post was with respect to the loss of the extended family bonds that everyone has outside of the home.

Things are going to change and that will cause a shock wave.

Losing ones work buddies, whether you are male or female is not pleasant. It will be very upsetting.

I really do not understand why this is being diminished. I'm calling it as an issue that needs to be looked in to, and people are saying I am the problem here.

That is bizarre behaviour.

What does anyone get by not taking the possibility into account. Or is it just being contrarian and saying "I'm alright jack"

Maybe I missed your point, in which case I apologize. People need to look out for each other, full stop, and saying it is a non issue isn't going to help anyone.

What can I say

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TFenrir t1_jdt9bng wrote

I remember a completely different movie. In what I remember, the AI tries its best to not hurt anyone, and in the end - really doesn't, even when defending itself. And humanity in the end becomes it's own worst enemy, as in its fear of the AI, sets itself down a path of global pain and suffering.

Who's lives did the AI end up sacrificing? Didn't it save a lot of people's lives?

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giveuporfindaway t1_jdt9bgk wrote

I expect some things to be cheaper like car ownership. I'm hoping other medical breakthroughs happen that put off aging or catch things like cancer. I do think unemployment will become very bad in the near term (10 years). Beyond that it's UBI or societal collapse. If UBI is released at any point and is substantial enough I'll likely quit my job and just watch the latest VR porn.

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elehman839 t1_jdt94ba wrote

Here's a neat illustration of this. Ask ChatGPT to multiply any two four-digit numbers. For example:

Input: 3742 * 7573

Output: The product of 3742 and 7573 is 28350686

The correct answer is 28338166. The bolded digits are right, and the plain digits are wrong. So it gets the first bit right, the last bit right, and the middle bit wrong. This seems to be very consistent.

Why is this? In general, computing the first digits and the last digits requires less computation than the middle digits. For example:

  • Determining that that last digit should be a 6 is easy: notice that the last digits of the multiplied numbers are 2 and 3 and 2 * 3 = 6.
  • Similarly, it is easy to see that 3000-something times 7000-something should start with a 2, because 3 * 7 = 20-something.
  • But figuring out that the middle digits of the answer are 38 is far harder, because every digit of the input has to be combined with every other digit.

So I think what we're seeing here is ChatGPT hitting a "compute per emitted token" limit. It has enough compute to get the leading digits and the trailing digits, but not the middle digits. Again, this seems to be quite reliable.

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jsseven777 t1_jdt8ed3 wrote

We aren’t evolved to being around our family 24x7? Have you seen monkeys? They hang out in trees with their family 24x7. Humans are 100% evolved to be in close social units.

Just because you’ve been orientated into believing that your life purpose is to be a cog in the wheels of capitalism doesn’t mean evolution is a part of this. The world will need a bit of deprogramming to shake the conditioning, but will be a lot like deprogramming a person who got stuck up in a cult. It will take weeks or months not years or decades.

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