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QristopherQuixote t1_je9ko9g wrote

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Squirrel851 t1_je9knog wrote

Or the fact it's not up to a private citizen to deliver a ticket to a private citizen. Otherwise every Karen and Keith would be giving tickets to whoever they wanted. I'd you get the ticket in the mail then you either pay or you go to court over it. Judge reviews the picture or video, if they can't determine who it is then the ticket gets thrown out. You still have to pay court costs however.

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UngilUndy t1_je9jn0b wrote

Depends on how the information is written. It is often composed more out of a sense of pretension than of any desire to communicate.

I much prefer historical context to some "the artist explores spacialities in composition and intertwines content with emptiness in a pattern-centric manner" gargle.

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QristopherQuixote t1_je9id8o wrote

Private companies cannot issue traffic citations and charge whatever they want. A civil infraction has to come from a government entity with statutory limits on fines and the money has to go the government entity. Most camera systems are bid out to and implemented by private companies on behalf of either a state or local government.

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mikk0384 t1_je9ics8 wrote

They can only identify the car. Then they send the ticket to the owner, and then the owner give the ticket to the rightful recipient. The only potential issue I see is if the vehicle is stolen, but that should have been reported to the police anyway.

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QristopherQuixote t1_je9hpny wrote

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lost_in_life_34 t1_je9ghld wrote

I’m all for conservation of water and I think the traditional lawn is a waste of money and resources but most water use in California is from the senior rights holding farmers who do zero conservation

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QristopherQuixote t1_je9g68n wrote

In the OP case, automated enforcement was based on the amount of water passing through a homeowner’s meter and the usage pattern. Pretty simple implementation of automated enforcement without many ways for it to screw up, and people still hated it.

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Squirrel851 t1_je9fuvo wrote

Years back instead of driving my diesel to NJ from SC I borrowed my buddies Tacoma. Driving up and in Maryland I go passed a white SUV with cameras attached to the front. His parents got the ticket even though they were nowhere near driving it.

Just because it's convenient, doesn't mean it's right.

Also speed cams and red-light cameras usually are private industry. Contracted by the city or county, they can charge whatever they want but have no state authority other than the go ahead to install the equipment and maintain it. Any revenue paid goes mainly to them, the city gets a cut.

All this to say, I'm all for automation, just wish people would get their greedy hands out of it.

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CookBaconNow t1_je9fty6 wrote

“High openness”’is clumsy, imo.

These studies make me chuckle - yeah, more info does help me understand better. Haha. No, I didn’t read the article based on the title.

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Brewcrew828 t1_je9fnyl wrote

Did you even read what I wrote? Especially my response to the other reply to this comment. I suggest you do. I'm no fan of the Republicans, either.

As I said, neither party wants or is even trying to fix the actual problem.

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GrinningIgnus t1_je9fb2w wrote

I mean, I’ve had people ride my bumper through yellow lights and the camera captures my vehicle’s plates because of their noncompliance. Suddenly I have to jump through bureaucratic hoops bc of someone else’s noncompliance. And those hoops are allllll automated voice systems or extremely stupid chat bots that make you burn a solid 30 minutes before you’re allowed to talk to an actual person.

Not to mention that technology gets worse with each generation. The tech workforce is getting diluted with dummies. 15 years ago I didn’t have a deep burning hatred of user interfaces - they worked and were responsive. Now they crash reliably. How have we unsolved something as fundamental as a user interface? I keep a folder of software bugs that crop up during a normal work day, and that thing grows every single day.

There’re plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike forced automation. I agree that “I didn’t want to get caught” isn’t one. If automated solutions were done well, I’d love it. But they’re not.

There’re different complaints to be made for traditional law enforcement as well.

Everything sucks.

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QristopherQuixote t1_je9dyze wrote

People seem to really hate automated enforcement of anything, including traffic cameras. If you break a law, it shouldn’t matter how you’re caught. If we can automate enforcement, compliance will improve over time and costs for enforcement go way down.

Imagine how many fewer traffic accidents we would have if enforcement were automated. If people knew they could never speed, run a light, or go through a stop sign without being fined, they would start behaving. However, this idea is extremely unpopular.

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