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tyler1128 t1_je2py7z wrote

Reply to Increased Fruit and Vegetable Consumption Mitigates Oxidative Damage and Associated Inflammatory Response in Obese Subjects Independent of Body Weight Change by Zadarex

I'm curious what they did with regard to alcohol intake they measured. Not to invalidate anything about it, but one of the target metrics was glutathione, and the other two are also less affected by alcohol consumption but still are. Might be interesting to see if there's any correlation, as eating more healthfully in the west at least tends to also correlate at least somewhat with decreased alcohol consumption.

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IdesOfMarchCometh t1_je2ma61 wrote

Reply to comment by iamfondofpigs in Research found among nearly 100 teens who underwent brain scans, those with obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) tended to have thinner tissue at the brain's surface, and some signs of inflammation in a brain area key to memory and learning. by Wagamaga

Interesting.

There are others showing CPAP helps in other dimensions:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100607065550.htm

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnins.2016.00090/full

I would say the evidence is pretty clear CPAP helps the brain reverse damage caused by OSA.

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LanghamP_ t1_je2lu0s wrote

Reply to Aggregate measure of financial misreporting for nearly 2,000 companies in the U.S. suggests that the collective probability of fraud across major companies is the highest in over 40 years by marketrent

I feel that companies that are about to IPO are almost certainly fraudulent. You look at Jack Dorsey and Square, with maybe 40% of those user accounts being fraudulent, and stock being sold to little Reddit investors...how could it not be fraudulent? It's almost as if IPO's are now being used to enrich original stockholders who sell and exit instead of raising capital.

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tjleewilliams t1_je2k99c wrote

Reply to comment by Sculptasquad in Research found weight loss was associated with decreased risk factors for cardiovascular disease and Type 2 diabetes for at least five years — even if some weight was regained, according to a review of research on behavioral weight loss programs by Wagamaga

I'm just learning that this movement exists, and I view it as tantamount to the anti-vaxxers/anti-maskers. It's easier to just deny the truth than to change their behavior so that's the route they take, but that doesn't mean we have to accept that idiocy as a valid alternate version of the truth.

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and_dont_blink t1_je2ivq4 wrote

Reply to comment by needtofigureshitout in Study Suggests Wild Blueberries Help Burn Fat. Results showed participants burned notably more fat after consuming wild blueberries. For example, fat oxidation rate rose by 19.7%, 43.2%, and 31.1% at 20, 30, and 40 min after cycling. by Wagamaga

>Check the rest of my comment history and age if you're so obsessed with who i am.

I did, your account was recently created, has 11 karma and most of it came from commenting all over this one post.

I scanned your reply,and while I'd normally ask forfor the fourth time if you happen to know anyone involved with this study I'll leave that for others.

>You mentioned the "larger" tart cherry study showing no effect and that this study was going against it. If the tart cherry study used actual juice,

The study itself mentioned it, which you showed you hadn't thoroughly read. You're being disingenuous enough here it's time for me to move on, you have a great day.

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iamfondofpigs t1_je2ieqn wrote

Reply to comment by IdesOfMarchCometh in Research found among nearly 100 teens who underwent brain scans, those with obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) tended to have thinner tissue at the brain's surface, and some signs of inflammation in a brain area key to memory and learning. by Wagamaga

Consult Table 1 for a huge list of studies on this matter.

https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/20/3/459/htm

TNF-α serum concentrations are used to track inflammation.

Rightmost column indicates whether a study found link between sleep apnea and inflammation.

"Effect of Tx" column indicates whether a study checked for effect of sleep apnea treatment on inflammation, and if it did, what was the result.

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orangutanoz t1_je2hzff wrote

Reply to Research found weight loss was associated with decreased risk factors for cardiovascular disease and Type 2 diabetes for at least five years — even if some weight was regained, according to a review of research on behavioral weight loss programs by Wagamaga

I have been wearing gym shorts and track pants for a few years due to weight gain. I haven’t bought bigger trousers or jeans for thirty years and I’m not about to. I’m about two months away from being fit again but I’ll be going back yet again for my sixth or seventh ankle surgery. My brothers are fat and there’s nothing wrong with them other than they’re lazy and they eat too much. I don’t get it.

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Active_Remove1617 t1_je2go01 wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Research found among nearly 100 teens who underwent brain scans, those with obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) tended to have thinner tissue at the brain's surface, and some signs of inflammation in a brain area key to memory and learning. by Wagamaga

No,I hear that’s really good. Top class. This makes the O2 poor performance all the more lamentable. The o2 measuring is actually accurate but the sample rate is awful.

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Zadarex OP t1_je2g28t wrote

Reply to Increased Fruit and Vegetable Consumption Mitigates Oxidative Damage and Associated Inflammatory Response in Obese Subjects Independent of Body Weight Change by Zadarex

Abstract

Introduction: The growing prevalence of obesity and related type 2 diabetes is reaching epidemic proportions in the Gulf countries. Oxidative damage and inflammation are possible mechanisms linking obesity to diabetes and other related complications, including cardiovascular disease (CVD).

Aims: To measure the effects of increased fruit and vegetable consumption on body weight, waist circumference, oxidative damage, and inflammatory markers.

Materials and Methods: We recruited and followed up with 965 community free-living subjects. All recruited subjects had fruit and vegetable intakes, physical activity, antioxidants, and markers of oxidative damage and inflammation measured at baseline and follow up. A validated, semi-quantitative food-frequency questionnaire was used to assess subjects’ fruit and vegetable consumption. We stratified subjects based on their daily fruit and vegetable consumption and compared metabolic risk factors between those with high fruit and vegetable consumption and those with low consumption. A multiple logistic regression analysis was performed to determine the independent effects of fruit and vegetable intake on changes in body weight and waist circumference (WC).

Results: A total of 965 community free-living subjects (801 (83%) females, mean (SD) age 39 ± 12 years) were recruited and followed up with for a mean (SD) period of 427 ± 223 days. Using WHO cut-off points for body mass index (BMI), 284 (30%) subjects were overweight and 584 (62%) obese, compared to 69 (8%) at normal body weight. An increased fruit and vegetable consumption was associated with a significant decrease in inflammatory markers (hs CRP, TNF-α) and oxidative damage markers (TBARs) and with increased antioxidant enzymes (catalase, glutathione peroxidase) compared to a low consumption (p < 0.05). The benefits of an increased fruit and vegetable consumption in obese subjects was independent of changes in body weight and WC and was maintained at follow up.

Conclusion: Our results support the beneficial role of a higher fruit and vegetable intake in obese subjects independent of changes in body weight and WC.

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needtofigureshitout t1_je2g10p wrote

Reply to comment by and_dont_blink in Study Suggests Wild Blueberries Help Burn Fat. Results showed participants burned notably more fat after consuming wild blueberries. For example, fat oxidation rate rose by 19.7%, 43.2%, and 31.1% at 20, 30, and 40 min after cycling. by Wagamaga

Check the rest of my comment history and age if you're so obsessed with who i am. It just so happens that this post has one of the dumbest conclusions I've seen about a study. No I'm not involved. I just dislike when people misinterpret studies.

You made several points to try to conver whatever conclusion you had.

You said the study had the participants remove anthocyanin containing foods while eating whatever they want, but that the were told to eat blueberries. Based on your wording, you're implying this was all in one period, which it wasn't. The first two weeks had removal of anthocyanin content from diet, then they did a fasted test, so the fasted exercise was already a controlled variable. The two weeks after that, they ate the blueberry powder, then again did a fasted test.

You mentioned the "larger" tart cherry study showing no effect and that this study was going against it. If the tart cherry study used actual juice, the anthocyanin content would likely have been significantly less since the highest anthocyanin content is right at harvest, and it degrades over time. Frozen berries have the highest anthocyanin content, but that's beside the point. You fail to mention how the study itself mentions similar results produced from anthocyanin-standardized new zealand black currant supplementation.

Then you mention how the blueberry powder added up to 30% of carb intake in the participants. If you had accurately read it you would've seen the discrepancy in carb calculation and realized it doesn't make sense. The carb intake is potentially also irrelevant, as the results showed lower carb utilization during the exercise.

The authorship "issues" of the study don't make sense either. Someone wrote a master's thesis, then the same person was involved in an experiment using 9 people. Then a bit later, someone else replicates the study with some more people to see if the results would match. This seems pretty standard because experiments need to be replicable. Then the study done at a university was funded by the university, go figure. And they were donated a product that is standardized for anthocyanin content, which would remove the variation in anthocyanins had the participants used fresh berries.

There's really not a whole lot to criticize except the macronutrient discrepancy.

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