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mattmahoneyfl t1_jdyz1bl wrote

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theblackd t1_jdyy2vh wrote

One thought here, it’s my understanding that some of the medications for these increase the risks. I grew up with pretty bad asthma and had to take prednisone for a while and I know I was told prednisone can increase this risk. I don’t know if prednisone specifically is prescribed for eczema but I wouldn’t be surprised if something similar was since both are autoimmune.

So I’m wondering if it’s due to medications that are used for these conditions that’s causing this

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tklite t1_jdywzmw wrote

Eczema and asthma are inflammatory conditions, pointing that the development of osteoarthritis is also an inflammatory condition. Poorly controlled eczema and asthma that over relies on the use of oral steroids can also lead to osteoarthritis.

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needtofigureshitout t1_jdywwj1 wrote

That would be interesting to see. It really is amazing how much stuff is already out there, sometimes I'll randomly think of an effect a food may have on a condition or body function and after looking it up there's already a dozen experiments regarding it.

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WisePhantom t1_jdywi4t wrote

Ah I see where I wasn’t clear. That’s my bad. To clarify, I was wondering what the results would be if they added controls.

Something like: Group 1: 0 supplements + healthy diet + 12 hr fast

Group 2: pre-workout + healthy diet + 12 hr fast

Group 3: blueberries + healthy diet + 12 hr fast

Group 4-n: (same as 1-3 but vary fasting time and dosage to establish max/min recommendations).

I took a look back at some of the reference papers and there’s been several studies already on this particular supplement. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone else has already looked into my questions and I just haven’t come across it yet.

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Looking4APeachScone t1_jdyw2m3 wrote

That's not for me to decide. Either way, I'm not saying to ban the content, but tagging it appropriately so that headline readers don't run with misinformation would be prudent.

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needtofigureshitout t1_jdyvejj wrote

Can you elaborate on what is poorly designed and why it is manipulative or misleading? Merely because of the funding?

And wouldn't small sample sizes be necessary to spread to reach researchers on reddit who may be interested in further looking into the subject, who may not have seen it otherwise? Should no research be published unless it's a 100+ sample? Or 1000? 1 million? What even defines a small sample size? This study could be used as part of a meta analysis that reviews similar studies, and if they all have samples of 15 or less, are they all invalid? Particularly when using trained athletes of specific levels, finding a sample size over 100 may be difficult. Many studies regarding hypertrophy and strength use around half of that.

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needtofigureshitout t1_jdytr2m wrote

Man, sorry, but you're kind of dense. What do you think would happen if they tested moderately trained people? That they don't further develop aerobic adaptations from training?

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needtofigureshitout t1_jdysge9 wrote

"Or if eating anything healthy before a workout"

I understood that as you meaning that they had the blueberries before working out. The study was meant to evaluate anthocyanin content in the diet having an effect, i don't think they were considering timing. But that would be interesting to see. EGCG shows increased fat oxidation when taken prior to exercise.

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needtofigureshitout t1_jdyrtce wrote

Your other reply isn't visible to me in the comments.

I'm not sure what is difficult to understand. Trained people burn more fat, yes. Untrained people burn less. So the experiment wants to see what eating blueberries does in regards to the fat burning effects of exercise. To remove the potential of beginner gains from skewing the results, use trained individuals to study the effects. The participants abstained from anthocyanins, and tested the fat oxidation. Then introduced anthocyanins, and tested again, showing an increase. Your point is irrelevant. The result of the study is that blueberries in the diet increase fat oxidation in response to exercise in humans. Like i said, if it showed effects in trained people, it would likely show effects in untrained people. There isn't some switch that just rejects anthocyanins because you aren't aerobically trained.

A small sample size isn't necessarily bad, it provides a stepping stone for the next group to investigate.

Edit: the authors of the study also declared the funders (blueberry company) basically didn't touch the study, and it is published in a peer reviewed journal.

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