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rdwarz OP t1_jdf9zgg wrote

>these stupid and naïve fools thought that Macron will not do his program to thanks them

  1. literally nobody tought that, we just wanted to avoid Le Pen at all cost
  2. being president doesn't allow Macron to do whatever he wants, he's supposed to represent the people
  3. Macron doesn't even keep his promises like purging the governement from corruption

putain de macroniste de merde

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easant-Role-3170Pl t1_jdf8gjp wrote

Lol. The rich are either leaving France or have head offices outside of France so they don't have to pay such high taxes. Good luck with that. If a country has too much taxes, the first thing the rich do is look for places to not pay the big taxes outside of that country

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Cardellini_Updates t1_jdf6tln wrote

>And, for the record, the US never murdered millions of people.

This is such a laughably absurd lie, what the fuck? What the actual fuck is wrong with you people?

Millions dead in Vietnam. Millions dead in the "War on Terror" across the Middle East. God knows how many millions dead on account of our colonial history - Chattel Slavery and the expulsion of the peoples here before us. Objectively, you're an ignorant person - don't try to play a cutsie little numbers game when our closet is drenched in blood.

The East turned around under the communists and did in decades what took centuries for the West. And yeah, bursting out of thousands of years of subsistence farming into industrial modernity is not fun, but you are only correct on one thing - that there is no conflation, they crossed the bridge far more humanely, and it's not even fucking close. That's what it symbolizes.

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Walking_billboard t1_jdf5e9p wrote

So your basic theory is if you remove everything that the flag symbolizes then its fine? Sounds like the same thing the people waving the rebel flag would say.
Its the literal symbol of the murderous regime.

And, for the record, the US never murdered millions of people. We have crimes-a-plenty (looking at you S. America) but don't conflate them.

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Cookie-Senpai t1_jdf57rd wrote

Top marginal tax rate increase, windfall taxes on exceptional profit (Highway companies and fuel companies made big profit headlines), increase of minimal wage, increase in company-side social taxes etc.

Basically many ways to not make the workers face the brunt of the cost.

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rhalf t1_jdf17tk wrote

A lot of what the west accomplished was built using revolutionary and communist ideology, so I'm not surprised people romanticize it. Soviet Union's and China's Marxism-Leninism is probably what you mean when you say "communism".

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Cardellini_Updates t1_jdf0u99 wrote

The Soviet Union saved the lives of countless French people in freeing them of the Vichy puppet regime and the holocaust.

>There's a reason why the USSR fell apart.

And communists must learn form this and have been learning from this. It was a inevitable for the sclerosis of Soviet society, but still an extreme tragedy. Nobody can look at the Post-Soviet situation as a whole and call it success story with a straight face, especially when compared against the route that China was able to take.

>But waving a symbol of an oppressive regime that has taken the lives of millions is not something anybody should support, don't you agree?

I'm a patriot, American, and my own country has also taken the lives of millions, but I don't admonish people for having a connection to our flag that is still meaningful for us in our own context and life. The communist flag, flags, have a meaningful history woven into the liberty of the French people. It's part of their patriotic tradition.

When you have crimes in your past you take responsibility for them and overcome them, that doesn't require a fundamental break with it being our history and our past. But that's not even how I would fundamentally characterize the sum history of Official Communism™, which has been and continues to be a success.

>The flag that the dude is waving has nothing to do with the 2 months of "communism" that France had. [the Paris Commune]

It has everything to do with it.

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Maddest_Hatta t1_jdeyms5 wrote

The flag that the dude is waving has nothing to do with the 2 months of "communism" that France had. If it was a plain red flag, you could've had some argument there. But waving a symbol of an oppressive regime that has taken the lives of millions is not something anybody should support, don't you agree? There's a reason why the USSR fell apart. It was a red apple with a rotten core.

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