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GingerJacob36 t1_jbt5h6m wrote
Reply to comment by frogandbanjo in There is nothing to say about truth, admits Simon Blackburn. Here he presents the deflationist approach to truth – one that aims to put an end to the search for a theory of truth, which Blackburn now recognises is futile by IAI_Admin
That question doesn't negate the existence of an objective morality. If the scenario you presented was one possible way of life, we could all agree that it would not be the best one. It is objectively not as good for as many people as many other ways to live. Enslaving 60% of the population would be much better, and enslaving 0% would be much better than that. These are all objectively better than each other, and that thought process can continue into pretty much anything else that we encounter.
It's not that it wouldn't be a hard question to answer, but it's not an impossible one to answer and there are metrics along which that decision could be made.
GainAccomplished9250 t1_jbt1rfp wrote
Reply to No empirical experiment can prove or disprove the existence of free will without accounting for the inadvertent biases surrounding both the experiment and the concept of free will. by IAI_Admin
One of the assumptions in the Libet experiment is that free will (however it is defined) requires consciousness. The fact that we may not be immediately aware of our decision does not mean it is not free. It just means that it takes some time for thoughts to occur—for our “conscious” mind (however that is defined) to arrange itself into focus. It takes time for ALL mental processes to occur. I’m not saying this has any bearing on the existence of libertarian free will. I happen to think libertarian free will is an illusion, a beautiful and useful illusion—and the illusion ITSELF is real. (See my book Free Will Explained.) But even if I am wrong, the Libet experiment (for all its strengths and numerous weaknesses) does not prove determinism or disprove libertarian free will. It just demonstrates something fascinating about how the brain works.
waytogoal t1_jbswkeb wrote
Reply to comment by matlockpowerslacks in I just published an article in The Journal of Mind and Behavior arguing that free will is real. Here is the PhilPapers link with free PDF. Tell me what you think. by MonteChristo0321
I think you underestimate the task. The possibility space of nonsense is so unimaginably huge, and the thing is, they don't matter one way or the other to your survival.
And what kind of data would you be looking at? Just to make sure you are not using an outcome to predict an outcome i.e., a tautological model.
zms11235 t1_jbspdrp wrote
Reply to comment by bildramer in No empirical experiment can prove or disprove the existence of free will without accounting for the inadvertent biases surrounding both the experiment and the concept of free will. by IAI_Admin
Why should I trust chemical reactions to unfold in a way that “references truth”? Reason requires a rational agent, not a biorobot.
bildramer t1_jbsk8sn wrote
Reply to comment by Drakolyik in No empirical experiment can prove or disprove the existence of free will without accounting for the inadvertent biases surrounding both the experiment and the concept of free will. by IAI_Admin
It's not just reliigous and political motives. I have a "compatibilism is obviously the most sensible approach" motive. Also wtf, your last paragraph is unhinged.
bildramer t1_jbsk41c wrote
Reply to comment by zms11235 in No empirical experiment can prove or disprove the existence of free will without accounting for the inadvertent biases surrounding both the experiment and the concept of free will. by IAI_Admin
What makes you think chemical reactions can't have reference to truth? Also, yes, you can be fooled, that just means you aren't a perfect reasoner.
rolyfuckingdiscopoly t1_jbsbd9o wrote
Reply to comment by LifeOfAPancake in There is nothing to say about truth, admits Simon Blackburn. Here he presents the deflationist approach to truth – one that aims to put an end to the search for a theory of truth, which Blackburn now recognises is futile by IAI_Admin
An interesting question is: why does the truth have to be immediately useful? Why would it be that truth must benefit you, or me, or any of us?
And- if it must be useful— is it not useful to have an idea, an inexact but working model, of the way the world exists independent of ourselves?
TheRecognized t1_jbs87rl wrote
Reply to comment by IReallyHateReddit37 in The Eternal Return: Nietzsche’s Brilliant Thought Experiment Illustrating the Key to Existential Contentment by Raw_Spit
^That’s ^kinda ^his ^point
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Reply to comment by ztarfroot in The Eternal Return: Nietzsche’s Brilliant Thought Experiment Illustrating the Key to Existential Contentment by Raw_Spit
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KodeineKonnoisseur t1_jbs7yn3 wrote
Reply to comment by toblotron in The Eternal Return: Nietzsche’s Brilliant Thought Experiment Illustrating the Key to Existential Contentment by Raw_Spit
It's not a thought experiment; it's literal, to an extent.
Within the 'god is dead' conceptual framework, Nietzsche needed a post-christian metaphysical formulation - eternal reoccurrence was his best shot at that.
I specify "to an extent" because Nietzsche's reliance on the theory in his work was limited by his inability to make it logically bulletproof, but he really did believe in the idea of a cyclical universe.
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Reply to comment by Biguiats in The Eternal Return: Nietzsche’s Brilliant Thought Experiment Illustrating the Key to Existential Contentment by Raw_Spit
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Tealtime t1_jbron3e wrote
Reply to comment by Biguiats in The Eternal Return: Nietzsche’s Brilliant Thought Experiment Illustrating the Key to Existential Contentment by Raw_Spit
That's, I think, and intuition i had about it but hadn't consciously thought about thus far. Indeed, in a way it forces you even to really sniff that rose on your way to work and appreciate even just sitting there with nothing to do a bit more if you apply it the right way - it tells you that's all you'll ever get; better make it worth something.
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AstronomerStandard t1_jbrnyw6 wrote
Reply to comment by NVincarnate in The Eternal Return: Nietzsche’s Brilliant Thought Experiment Illustrating the Key to Existential Contentment by Raw_Spit
I know, I deviated on purpose. Just wanted to state what I discovered while performing this thought experiment.
Btw m, Reliving the same life for eternity is a torture no matter how pleasurable ur life was. If u’re to relive a luxurious life then I’ll find it only “less painful”. Part of the joy in life is its spontaneity
HamiltonBrae t1_jbrnwcn wrote
Reply to comment by BroadShoulderedBeast in Wrote a short essay on Blogger with arguments about the realness and consistency of the perception of reality. Feel free to share your thoughts about the subject. by WrongdoerOk6812
>The person holding the map can use the map to understand what the earth will look like when they get to the portion of the terrain the map is meant to represent.
Yes and this is prediction. I am using a map to predict what I might find if I go walk in a certain direction. This is precisely what a map is used for, allowing us as individuals to predict things we do not have immediate perceptual access to, and is in the same spirit as what any model is for. Maps and the notion of a "useful representation" are meaningless without this notion of prediction.
>It doesn’t predict where the roads might move to, what the buildings will look like in ten years, or how a new hill might form.
Neither does any other model. Models can be wrong, then you just change the model.
CarbonAlchemy t1_jbrhr1w wrote
Reply to The Eternal Return: Nietzsche’s Brilliant Thought Experiment Illustrating the Key to Existential Contentment by Raw_Spit
Time is a flat circle.
NVincarnate t1_jbrhnuv wrote
Reply to comment by AstronomerStandard in The Eternal Return: Nietzsche’s Brilliant Thought Experiment Illustrating the Key to Existential Contentment by Raw_Spit
The point of the exercise is you don't change anything every time. It's the same life for infinity.
l_Have_Like t1_jbrhfmf wrote
Reply to comment by BadLeague in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | March 06, 2023 by BernardJOrtcutt
same as most other things, libgen.rs
AstronomerStandard t1_jbrehjt wrote
Reply to comment by IReallyHateReddit37 in The Eternal Return: Nietzsche’s Brilliant Thought Experiment Illustrating the Key to Existential Contentment by Raw_Spit
If my life was reset I’d certainly make better decisions. That’s enough for me to know that I have grown through my mistakes. And then I’d probably make more mistakes through the new choices that I would make.
We need to make choices to grow, if we wait for life to make a choice for us, it would be also letting our environment decide who we will be.
Ubermensch….
Clarkeprops t1_jbrda91 wrote
Reply to comment by GetPsily in There is nothing to say about truth, admits Simon Blackburn. Here he presents the deflationist approach to truth – one that aims to put an end to the search for a theory of truth, which Blackburn now recognises is futile by IAI_Admin
Every time I talk philosophy with someone versed in it, I leave more confused than before.
NVincarnate t1_jbr23ml wrote
Reply to No empirical experiment can prove or disprove the existence of free will without accounting for the inadvertent biases surrounding both the experiment and the concept of free will. by IAI_Admin
The philosophical equivalent of "well, that's just your opinion, man."
Tealtime t1_jbqyz1s wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in The Eternal Return: Nietzsche’s Brilliant Thought Experiment Illustrating the Key to Existential Contentment by Raw_Spit
Was shouting at your dog really the worst thing you ever did or ever experienced? If so, good on you.
zkooi t1_jbqx85j wrote
Reply to comment by BroadShoulderedBeast in No empirical experiment can prove or disprove the existence of free will without accounting for the inadvertent biases surrounding both the experiment and the concept of free will. by IAI_Admin
Well thats analytic philosophy in a nutshell.
BroadShoulderedBeast t1_jbtmtli wrote
Reply to comment by HamiltonBrae in Wrote a short essay on Blogger with arguments about the realness and consistency of the perception of reality. Feel free to share your thoughts about the subject. by WrongdoerOk6812
You’re not predicting the shape of the terrain based on the map anymore than you’re predicting what someone’s face looks like based on a photo.
Someone else already created the map and took the photo, it requires no prediction on the reader’s part, and a map itself cannot predict because it is an inanimate objects.