Ordinary if you want a solid cocktail and to chill, barracuda if you want to meet some fun co-drinkers

True about people needing to be involved, but if you view the public hearings on this, a lot of people are involved, and they know a lot, they don’t just gnash their teeth, they approach the city with ideas. The city responds to those ideas by utterly ignoring them and going in with a bulldozer, so I guess it takes even more people, and discovering more levers to pull. I guess you have to get the chamber of commerce on board

I don’t know what it is about getting elected in New haven but the minute you do, you become a rock on the bottom of a stream with no eyes, ears, heart, etc

Partner's definitely!

I’ve only been with people to elm city social but it’s the first bar that comes to mind— I’d def go back by myself and the bartenders can be friendly even when pretty packed :)

I think my off the cuff answer is Trinity. Low key atmosphere and there’s a lot of room so you can either do your own thing (not bothering anyone) or, if you’re social, glom on to other conversations.

On slower nights, Ordinary is a good answer here. Bartenders are always great to chat with. However, this is a smaller bar that can get busy and I think a solo drinker might end up feeling like they’re taking up space.

guilford is definitely more small town vibes—think gilmore girls. Milford is good. We just bought a place in Hamden and love the area. I work for Yale and can take the new haven bus if I don’t want to drive. Only 10 minutes to campus. Close to groceries, target, home depot, tjmaxx, etc

Check the state senate… lotta clowns there!

I agree completely but we need to adopt Housing First policies also.

Barcade, just play games

> Increase

That's the verb I was adding to. Not all homeless people require mental health services, but if everyone have access to them we would have a much more healthy community.

I don't agree with this. Holding kids back is detrimental to their development. Expecting everyone to be on the same page at the same time is a horrible cultural norm we have adopted. Having teachers who understand flexibility and how to differentiate is much more effective.

> theyd turn that apartment into a drug den and shoot the UBI up their arm.

Harm reduction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harm_reduction

How are they about local talent? Do they have them host/open/feature there?

I like Stella Blues for a quick pop in to see some live music!

No, you're just making up BS. I know you're making up BS because I'm bothered by homeless people all the time near my apartment downtown. I'm pretty sure one of our regulars on the corner came into our part-business building, saw my keys on the outside of my apartment door, stole them, and stole my bike in turn with them. And it all still happens without there being a tent city here.

All the packages and bikes stolen in East Rock keep on happening with Mill River camp gone too. Weird

Yeah that’s what they said about the camp at mill river. But my neighborhood was one of the closest and we dealt with the fall out for several years. We finally moved because we were unwilling to deal with it anymore. You can say ohh there are not bothering anyone. But they are, ask the closest neighborhood.

I was waiting in Rick's office to give my car keys/talk about what was wrong with my car the first time I went in and watched him Give extremely fair, extremely we balanced and thoughtful advice to a young lady who had some auto issues and really didn't know what to do. It made me feel really confident about his shop. I do some of my own work but what I needed was outside what I have time/patience for and they did great. I can't recommend them enough.

I was thinking about some possibilities.

okay but the camp was next to a river, next to a soccer field, across from a cemetery. Not on your doorstep or anyone's, so what are you going on about

If they could rely on police and not have to hide from police, they could enforce camp rules and prevent assaults. When someone tries to break into your house, you can call police, but this is denied to them, then we complain there is an assault!

And if your partner works with them, and you turn around and say Elicker had no choice, well, what are you saying? So is Cornell Scott recommending these camps be bulldozed? If so, Shame on them and their parochialism and short sightedness.

In the story link you sent me, the nurse even recommends they stay out of the shelters to avoid Covid, but bulldoze the camp? Is that nurse you? Your partner?

I’m not at all comfortable with your position. It’s absolutely punishing to support closing the camp

Lol I have no desire to be an elected official. the choices for mayor were all horrible. I have no wish to become a politician but I do vote, write letters participate in online meeting with our elected officials.

I would guess he received a lot of pressure from someone.

I agree this is a growing problem around the country and I would like to see the state address the problem. We need to provide stable affordable or free housing for people who are unable to take care of themselves or need a little help.

But people cannot just look at one side of the issue. They must understand all sides and the force this exerts on public policy to be able to deal the the problem appropriately. How many of the people here on this forum have attempted political and social solutions? All we hear is wringing of hand and gnashing of teeth and then surprised pikachu face when something happens like this instead of attempting to find a solution. How many become active in truly addressing this problem? How many will try to force our elected officials to find a solution? Collectively we are all to blame.

the problem is that people act like this is a singular problem and don’t solve the problem and of course they will just find some where else to start a new camp.

You’ve been presuming a lot about me, that I don’t vote, that I have no experience living in difficult neighborhoods. Why don’t you stop it

I understand why someone would want a festering problem to go away. I have felt that way myself but shouting that out publicly means that’s the part of the views I hold that I want heard the most and what should shape public policy. That’s the last thing I’d do, because I think it makes terrible public policy and solves nothing. I remind myself these are human beings we are talking about. And for every wandering person who seems dangerous or maybe has been violent there are 10 who are just trying to get out of poverty

You realize everyone living in the encampment is now scattered around new haven’s neighborhoods really at a loss and way more likely to appear in your life now than before. You realize they are 10 times needier when their possessions are destroyed, and the city has done this multiple times over the years, thus increasing new haven’s burden. He’s pushed them back to the New Haven Green and other neighborhoods

They should have donated a couple Porto potties to the site and left it in place until a solution could be found but the city is lacking in imagination and any guts..

I don’t know why Elicker was in such a panic over an allegedly “ permanent fixture” he thought they were building ( a shower? I don’t know) it’s not like that gives them any new legal status he has to worry about.

Towns have been pressured to do more and many of them are trying to catch up to state law minimums for affordable housing now, finally, but bottom line, most gravitate to new haven anyway because it’s compact and loaded with public transportation

You say the encampment is causing so many problems, then talk about desperate people causing problems on “your doorstep”, well, bulldozing the camp put desperate people on doorsteps and sidewalks and the Green etc. The camp was solving a problem better than that

College street music Hall has big names come through, just saw sam morril there and he was fantastic, i know nikki glaser was there a few months ago, thats for established comics though for breaking through theres stress factory, the funny bone, and i think a comedy joint at the mohegan sun casino