You keep on saying "its not so easy if youre a tourist", like a mantra as if tourists are all brainless shambling zombies. Then again OP was unable to find Yale despite being within clear line of sight to a couple tall Yale buildings and presumably around plenty of townies who could point them in the right direction, yet failed to find it, so who knows maybe youre right.

My apologies I didnt mean to put words in your mouth. However, your premise is flawed, the health of cities doesnt hing on "attracting suburbanites". Plenty of studies have shown tax revenues generated in the urban center are what subsidize suburban life and infrastructure, not the other way around. Suburbs are by and large financially insolvent, dependent on debt financing and continuous expansion to pay for their own infrastructure.

Downtown businesses also routinely overestimate how much out of town car-travel custom they get, they're mostly running on foot traffic and local demand.

Also, the notion that suburbanites have to take cars to use urban amenities is just wrong, plenty of cities around the world in Asia and Europe do fine with high quality frequent rail service. Its not a pipe dream at all, it is in fact exactly the kind of infrastructure we had in the US for the first half of the 20th century.

Edited to add - saw something on another subreddit that nicely sums up my argument in re: infrastructure. We dont need to bulldoze more of our cities for the sake of the car: https://www.reddit.com/r/bikecommuting/comments/11ncpvp/a_city_designed_around_driving_doesnt_work_for/

RIP Order of Fries 😭🫡 I think Haven Hot Chicken has the best currently - get the Rob Sauce!

Hockey rink concession stands.

Actually you’re not free to just say whatever you want, this isn’t the public square and we aren’t the government. But far outside of your needless negativity, spamming your complaints in every comment thread is a great way to get banned no matter what you’re saying. Consider yourself warned, please stop spamming every thread.

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co-signing this! unexpectedly amazing!!!

And they're delicious.

Their fries are frozen bagged fries.

I was a fan of garden catering; quality has slipped since the pandemic and hasn't returned.

Sounds like leftovers to me!

I feel like five guys fries are soggy right when I get them

Add the extra chicken too 🔥

Fryborg

Bonchon’s seasoned fries and house of naan’s tikka fries are great too

Fuck yes

Their yucca fries are so good.

Make sure to order the smallest size unless there are two of you…. Made that mistake once. The regular is HUGE

I have to agree, even when my order is late fries are always on point. Best fries IMO.

McD's.

shelton, milford, fairfield, monroe, bridgeport

I haven’t found it more conservative, but maybe you get mad easily (obviously) I feel like pink matinees are boring LMAO ( see what I did there, you called hockey boring even when it isn’t)

I have never been to a frozen yogurt place in NYC haha nor have I been to a bank there. Why would I go to a bank?

Fussy. Get the pesto dip with them. My mouth is watering just typing this.

There's still a Duchess somewhere? The one in Wallingford just closed. (I told my son to try their food for years. The day he decided to finally stop by was the day after they closed!)

Wow. You certainly put some words in my mouth there. I think we could do all of the above with some planning and commitment.

For what it's worth, we're stuck with cars, and no amount of utopian pipe dreaming is going to change that. Find a way of unwinding 75 years of building our communities -- and literally our whole country -- around the automobile, and we can talk about buses and bikes as primary modes of transportation.

So yes. By all means, build bike lanes and bus lanes and pedestrian streets, but if we want to attract suburbanites to New Haven's stores and theaters and restaurants (and I'm old enough to remember what the city was likebl when suburbanites wouldn't come near downtown), we're going to need good parking options that meet their various needs.

I think we can do all of the above. There is a lot of wasted roadway capacity in downtown New Haven. Everywhere I look, I see broad streets that accommodate two lanes of traffic in each direction, plus parking, and still manage to become choke points because of standing bases, delivery vehicles, and inefficient traffic management. We can do better.