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nayapapaya t1_jeew7rg wrote

So much of what happened with EEAAO was an anomaly though. It's hard to say how much of a change its campaign and win will bring to awards season just yet. It would certainly be nice if it became more typical for awards contending films to be released throughout the year but so many of them use the fall festivals to build up buzz that it's hard to see that changing so soon.

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MirthandMystery t1_jeeuzou wrote

Unfortunately the story isn’t more widely known and hasn’t yet been folded into the general consciousness but is known by those who read the best selling book by David Gann called Killer of the Flower Moon (the Osage Murders the birth of the FBI). He’s an excellent author and does brilliant research. Ive long been a podcast listener and heard him talk about the story in an interview he did here in 2018:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/new-books-in-native-american-studies/id427425949?i=1000407497597

This was riveting (if slightly dry) listen because grew up in Texas and never heard about these murders or about the calculating evil betrayal their spouses engaged in. Further, I may have a little Indian blood in my family mix on my dads side who lived in OK then (we don’t think tied to Osage but yet to be determined which tribe exactly) and hearing the story further piqued my interest in genealogy and early US history to figure out how we all got here today, why are there so few Indians left (beyond obvious and known reasons) and facts of the systematic breaking of treaties with native indian tribes was a large part of it.

When treaties and theft didn’t work the Osage murderers just outright slaughtered their Indian wives and family. All for oil and money tied to the then new industry.

Sad thing about the Gann book is it was started in 2014 but came out in 2017 just before the huge increase of True Crime podcasts so it was somewhat too early to the listening party.

The upcoming film adaptation might get more traction:

“The book was acquired for film adaptation by director Martin Scorsese in 2017. Starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Robert De Niro, Jesse Plemons, and Lily Gladstone, the film is set to be released theatrically by Paramount Pictures and stream on Apple TV+ in 2023.”

Authors website: https://www.davidgrann.com/book/killers-of-the-flower-moon/

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TallSeaworth t1_jeeuj53 wrote

I think you might be forgetting that when the pirates are killed/flee in terror of the ghost army, their ships are filled with gondorian soldiers and men from the coast. This is the force that sails up river and joins the battle. It wasn't just 30 dudes

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Shavings_in_the_RIO t1_jeeuhbq wrote

It’s hard to come up with a good estimate since it’s not known what was a murder or what was a natural death. I was told it was around 100 or so growing up. You can talk to any Osage and they will have had a family meme bet who died during that era. My great great grandfather was one of the victims.

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vizualb t1_jeeu1q7 wrote

I haven’t seen it but have been completely baffled by the ads I’ve seen for it. One made it seem like an Isley Brothers biopic and really emphasizes “JASON DERULO is RON ISLEY.” Then another is all about KISS? I googled it and found out, like you said, the director is the son of the record producer who is ostensibly the lead of this movie (lol) and it started filming in 2019.

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Shavings_in_the_RIO t1_jeetsbb wrote

I have been looking forward to this movie for a while now and it makes me really happy to see other people excited too. I am Osage and I have family who was murdered during the Reign of Terror so the book is something that hits close to home for me. My ancestor is mentioned in the book as one of the murdered Osage. I’m hoping this movie does this horrible era justice but from what I have heard, it will. A lot of research has been done for this movie and a lot of time was spent on the Osage reservation. I’m glad these atrocities are being learned about outside of my tribe.

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AlanMorlock t1_jeet8fl wrote

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People say this but most of them didn't really make many contemporary set films prior to smart phones either.

With Scorsese for instance in the 90s, he made 2 films thst were contemporary set, Cape Fear and Brigingout the dead, and 4 period pieces, Goodfellas, Casino, Age of Innocence and Kundun. Idlly enough hosn200s best picture winner includes a in-pocket T9 texting scene!

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