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_Meece_ t1_jeddyu1 wrote

Reply to comment by emAK47 in Why do people say the superhero genre is "dead"? by CboyC95

> Superhero movies are the lowest form or cinema ever produced

No way, many of the superhero movies have fantastic VFX and SFX sequences, costuming, makeup and one two occasions, acting.

Comedy by far takes that title. Cheapest, sleaziest, laziest genre filmmaking has. The worst big studio movies ever are all comedies IMO.

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emAK47 t1_jeddcez wrote

Reply to Why do people say the superhero genre is "dead"? by CboyC95

Come on. Superhero movies are the lowest form or cinema ever produced. Disney especially put out a series of mass produced soulless cashgrabs that take no risks whatsoever. Nobody is ever in any real danger, they're like Dora the Explorer episodes but with (increasingly worse) cgi.

This being said, for the general public it's probably just fatigue/oversaturation. Give it some years and the cycle will repeat.

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DrRexMorman t1_jedd7id wrote

Reply to Why do people say the superhero genre is "dead"? by CboyC95

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Like the rest of us, Disney's had a rough 3 years: the CEO who loaded the company up with a slate of expensive and complicated ips replaced himself with a guy who probably committed fraud. The cracks are showing.

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Marvel's phase 3 was 25 hours long.

Marvel's phase 4 was 47 hours long - which is a lot.

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Marvel's cinematic universe turns 15 in May. Its creators have released a slate of moves that replace legacy characters and - in some instances - challenge their legacy. This move has proven to be less popular and lucrative than elements of the previous slate.

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Marvel/WB have made some missteps in terms of production (casting/content/release/etc) that have shifted the metanarrative about these movies from "wow, can't wait for the next one" to "lol, that guy is a villain in real life" - which is not where marketers want the metanarratve to be.

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my20cworth t1_jedcpg7 wrote

Reply to Why do people say the superhero genre is "dead"? by CboyC95

I could never get into superhero movies, even as a kid. They are action packed but I just feel they cover the same old format and theme just in different costumes, have some kind of weakness and the same old villians and basically are never really ever going to die, so any death defying scene is always a foregone conclusion. My guess is where more can you go with this genre. It won't die off but they do seem to bring out a Spiderman and Batman movie every year and I could never tell them apart or what sequence they are in or it they have any significant plot twist.

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premelicious t1_jedcajy wrote

Reply to I feel like movies are going to get worse now that COVID is over by Thomasthetank33

?????

People really just talk out of their ass on this sub... You don't hire talented young directors, build real sets, and spend 150 million dollars for a cash grab movie.

Even if you think the movie looks like crap or is crap it's undeniable that Paramount has put a lot of effort into trying to make Dungeons and Dragons a franchise-starting hit.

They clearly don't view it as a cheap cash grab.

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Tr4c3gaming t1_jedc04t wrote

Reply to Why do people say the superhero genre is "dead"? by CboyC95

A lot of the story threads movies and games and even comics follow are basically just remaking older stories...even if they call themselves new.

So to many superheroes as a genre... is quite dead or at the very least getting milked needlessly.

Then again this is a problem with pretty much any genre especially when the movies and games get more expensive..because studios basically cannot allow themselves to do truly groundbreaking or risky stuff... it is hard that producers go away from the traditional heroes journey and whatnot...which is exactly why average feeling movies happen, in a way a super large budget kills a movies creativity...kinda makes sense though it is like many call the galapagos finch problem... theres many birds, you can only pick one to represent the island... producers will pick the most generic one not the most unique or cool one... to many stale, but a safe play... this is why many feel like stuff is just perpertually dying...because large budgets tend to play it safe... happens with games especially...which is in part why indie games can allow themselves to challenge AAA titles..because AAA titles tend to have so much budget they have to play it safe...this is in part why single player story games are dying too in AAA spaces...this is why theres so many remakes or reboots of series.. they can be safe while being fresh...or put some more complex.. though quite generic story on a known IP (see tomb raider remake for instance, the game is nice but let's face it don't name it tomb raider and it isn't exactly a new story...they just added complexity to a new coat of paint of something older, much simpler)

This very largely depends how much you know about the comics and older stuff that preceeded these newer movies

Games and movies and genres are always in a perpetual state of dying as the older fan base slowly gets alienated from what they knew it was...or theres just nothing new under the sun.

This is also in part why if they don't do remakes.. they often do spinoffs of characters or start completely new IPs because that's a blank slate even if you use safe story threads it feels more fresh.

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