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samsqanch OP t1_jea75p0 wrote

Reply to comment by TheRealClose in 2009s 2012 is pretty OK by samsqanch

Yeah that was sketchy, there's even a throwaway line about how it might not even been flooded, so it's possible some people there survived.

I guess Earth 2.0 goes straight into colonialism.

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disninjaeatinbeans t1_jea6c55 wrote

In film making, "pretentious" usually means that because of the length/ composition of a shot, the actors behavior, and the music, you can tell that the scene or moment is supposed to be deep, thought provoking, and profound, but it is not. A good example is The Thin Red Line. It's a war film with an actual plot but a lot of it is random shots of a dirty soldier staring off into the distance at sunset while a voice over of self important poetry and orchestra music plays. It's like a visual version of "I am 12 and this is deep". It's interesting also because film is one of the few mediums where "what is the creator portraying here?" is not the only question, but also its appropriate to ask "what is the creator TRYING to portray here?". When films are described as ambitious or subtle, that implies that as a viewer, you know simultaneously what you are feeling, and what the creators want you to be feeling. And when they are aiming for marks that they're just not hitting, you know that, and it comes off as unearned, ham-fisted, or pretentious.

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BeginningAppeal8599 t1_jea643h wrote

I was just about to say this. They usually get worldwide success with authentic local language films and shows that don't try so many other languages like English but still think including American actors and English language scenes is necessary for global success.

I have the same problem even with Europeans such as German and Norwegian filmmakers who don't realize how awkward it is when they force in English scenes. The delivery is usually not right and doesn't feel as smooth as when they use the language they're comfortable with.

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spambearpig t1_jea5j7p wrote

Firstly Trading Places is a great and well loved movie so that brings some attention.

I think you might be underselling her role a little. She was probably the 3rd or 4th most featured character (her and the butler).

She played a prostitute who turned out to have more decency than any of the rich bastards or most of Billy Ray’s fickle friends and I think she did that well enough for a movie of this sort. So I think she did a great job of the role.

Now I’m not naive enough to think that the fact she got her tits out made no difference, but I do think it made less than half of the difference in how this movie helped her career.

Out of all the times an actress’s body has got her more attention and praise than her actual acting talent deserved, this would be really low on my list.

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BeginningAppeal8599 t1_jea5c06 wrote

That happens a lot even in Hollywood films and non English language shows. They can't create tension with a SWAT team or a pack of police officers so they always choose to have one character flying solo and being too brave.

It's plausible for some of these small towns that it could happen but it's a trope that will never change in horrors and thrillers

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