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Rabona_Flowers t1_je9yr0p wrote

Reply to comment by cancerBronzeV in 5 centimeters per second by Fan387

I think the fact that you required 2 viewings backs up my point about the first half being poorly written. Their alleged feelings for each other aren't given any credibility until we actually see them interact in the middle.

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Typical_Humanoid t1_je9ygsk wrote

I don't really like using Oscar bait as a criticism either. There are characteristics certain movies have that make them obvious Oscar bait, but these can still be good movies. Deserving over movies that aren't Oscar bait, usually not, but saying a movie is bad because it compares badly to another isn't looking at it for what it is.

Whenever I look at "pretentious movie" lists I see a ton of movies that aren't trying to be anything other than what they are, be it genuinely albeit unintentionally bad or movies that I personally feel flew over people's heads. But none I would call this. I don't get that "Oh this is so full of shit" feeling like I do when I hear a pretentious director's interview. I need more info than any movie can provide to make this determination. But that's just me.

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cancerBronzeV t1_je9vz8d wrote

This is probably my favourite anime romance movie; I remember hating the movie the first time I watched it because I just didn't expect it not being a traditional romance and it threw me off, but on a rewatch I just absolutely loved it. It's so beautiful in just how mundane and non-fantastical it is (compared to like most of the rest of Shinkai's works, which usually brings in some magical element). It just lets you simmer in this bittersweetness throughout that arises from just natural circumstances and nothing else.

The movie kinda reminds me of In the Mood for Love tbh, with both dealing with the melancholy from missed opportunities, backed by vivid visuals and a great soundtrack. They are different in pretty big ways too, but they both just give me the same kinda feeling when I watch them.

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periphery72271 t1_je9vkui wrote

I'll give you an example.

Let's say a character in a movie is cooking an egg.

Normally it's part of a breakfast scene. Maybe the character is spacing out and having an emotional moment, maybe they're just cooking an egg. Either way, there's not much to the action in the scene.

But your pretentious director might use dramatic camera angles go for close ups of the eggs or something else, place dramatic music into the scene or otherwise amp up the presentation in a way that tells you the viewer there's something to pay attention to.

They might think you're catching on to the theme of 'death, rebirth in the destruction of a cradle of birth' or something, but really all you see is...a person cooking eggs to weird camera angles and dramatic music.

Basically it's when a director is doing too much, trying to make simple or obvious things seem important.

The crazy thing is, when done well it's not pretentious, it's thought provoking. The spinning top at the end of Inception isn't just a spinning top, and the camera closing in and the dramatic music is justified.

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itjustgotcold t1_je9vdj9 wrote

That’s fair, ultimately it should convey your opinions and your opinions alone. I still wish you luck on your journey and commend the effort! Also, when I look at my reviews I’m constantly questioning my own thought process when I reviewed this or that movie, so I get the shifting over time for sure.

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Typical_Humanoid t1_je9uubv wrote

Nobody has sufficiently explained to me how you can possibly verify a movie is pretentious.

People focus much more on the first part than the "than is actually possessed" criteria but everything a movie is is on the screen. Pretension implies some sort of trickery or hidden depths of true inadequacy but a movie can't hide if it's actually plain bad. Directors are pretentious, actors are pretentious. People, with layers. Not a film.

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