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ZorroMeansFox t1_je33yxh wrote

bejeweled_sky: Here's something you might find useful, an example of masterful direction outside of films:

Genndy Tartakovsky's animated series Primal.

There is something in the history of "Film Language" known as Pure Cinema, the original visual language intuited and codified in Silent Movies, which had to portray all of their emotional and narrative intentions without words.

Writer-Director Tartakovsky wanted to do this in an animated series, which would be set in a world before spoken language, but which still found a way to illustrate all the big universal feelings (and thoughts) at the wellspring of sentience: Fear, repulsion, longing/desire, love, hatred, joy, hunger, loyalty, wonder, satiation, hope/hopelessness, puzzlement, fatigue, inspiration, etc. etc.

So he set his story in a fantasy prehistoric world with a proto-human as the protagonist (hence the double meaning of the title, Primal). It's very impressive; and the "simplified"/artistically-heightened facial expressions might be useful for your clients.

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VHwrites t1_je32qks wrote

I think the comments cover Besson's personal issues thoroughly so I won't reiterate, but will assume the reader is aware.

It's also been noted here that there are multiple versions: Leon (International), The Professional (American), and Leon: The Professional (Extended/DVD). And I think each is defensible as the 'definitive' version but I tend to prefer the Extended because the severity of it has an added value. There's no mistaking it for revenge fantasy.

For the purpose of comparison, consider Hit Girl avenging Big Daddy in Kick Ass. She is far more active in the violence than Mathilde is every version of Leon combined*.* Yet that movie is able to treat it as fantasy, escapist. Not to knock it, the bad guys get what they deserve and it's fun. But, I've never thought that's what Besson was after and I tend to think the international and extended editions emphasize that intention more than the American.

I think you'd be more forgiven for watching the American version and thinking "the paedo is trying to get away with something." But the more salacious cuts have a way of implicating the audience more than the author. That the camera treats her like an adult emphasizes how she's been robbed of innocence. We can see the vast disparity between how she sees herself and how we see her.

So while I understand why and how people are uncomfortable, I believe that discomfort was always the intention and have never really thought that Besson was broadcasting his own preferences--so to speak.

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iliadwarandpeace t1_je32k29 wrote

Book: The count of monte cristo

Film: The Prisoner of Château d'If (1988)

Pros: tries to portray the story of the book with maximum fidelity

Cons: Insufficient time prevents a complete adaptation of the book

Anime: Gankutsuou

Pros: Fun, dark sic-fi adaptation of the book. seeks to insert the plots and characters of the story.

Cons: Makes some changes that impact the ending of the book.

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iliadwarandpeace t1_je31fr0 wrote

.Insert a stupid and unnecessary dueling scene as the weak gladiator by Ridley Scott. Commodus was murdered while bathing and was not killed in a duel. I don't know what goes through the writers' heads to insert duel scenes and think that everything is resolved with direct confrontations.

It's not because Edmond had a child with Mercedes that he will necessarily care about her years later.

The real general Maximus, the Roman general Tiberius Claudius Pompeianos was married to Lucilla, the sister of Commodus. his wife was executed for conspiring against the room and he did not abuse this and did not avenge his wife with whom he had a child. He preferred a quiet life, he refused to become emperor when offered the position.

Family love and everything is resolved with duels are two unnecessary nonsense in history.

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ZorroMeansFox t1_je302x2 wrote

One of the finest adaptations of a good slim novel I've ever seen was Bill Condon's version of Christopher Bram's book Gods and Monsters (Father of Frankenstein).

Instead of making smart (but major) artistic changes to achieve the same themes/meanings as the source material, as many amazing adaptations have done, Gods and Monsters tried to duplicate the literary material beat for beat, with no bowdlerization, elisions, combining of characters, changes or removal of major scenes, etc. --while also finding a classical visual language which matched the novel's straightforward prose. It's really impressive (--as well as being a movie which, early on, showed that Brendan Fraser was a terrific dramatic actor, playing opposite the world-class Ian McKellen).

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Turqoise-Planet t1_je2ybze wrote

People keep posting about this movie on this sub just so people can say its creepy and the director is a pedo. It seems like there have been dozens of posts about this.

Personally I think the movie does get a little questionable at parts, but never crosses a line. Maybe the director wanted things to go further, but other people involved in the movie prevented that from happening.

Putting all that aside, its a good movie.

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