But to me JW2 feels more grounded and has the movie more balanced between the action and the story.

Wtf audience scores so low for Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

Willem Dafoe’s new movie, Inside.

2 lacks the signature scenes that 1 and 3 have

I have 2 last

Yeah it got really famous all around the world, very great action scenes

Much as I am amazed with the action in the JW franchise, it's pretty weak sauce. I agree with the OP, the first is the best and they get progressively more baroque. The 'lore', such as it is, is just something to pass the time between the action scenes. Having said all that I watched 3 last night and mostly enjoyed it. I do wish they'd have kept it more grounded in the real world tho.

Agreed, but it's uncanny how similar the two movies are.

Leo hallucinates about his wife and children in both, both movies have major and important sequences in heavy rainfall and snow, and at the end, in both movies it is revealed that >! Leo's characters actions was what had led to the death of their wives- planting an idea or murder out of rage !<

I don't think Spielberg does a lot of movies that Leo would act in. Not about quality, but the choices he makes. Leo seems to have really gotten into genre movies more and more.

Other than Titanic does he do much standard comedy/drama? I don't think so...?

You are not alone. I support this wholeheartedly and usually get downvoted for it, but my biggest complaint has been bloat.

JW3 was too long by far. I've used this example before, but my wife fell asleep in the last third of the film, because it just dragged out too much.

JW4 is also too long, but it combats the repetitiveness by changing up the protagonists in fights. Jumping from John to Akira to Caine to the Tracker and so on broke up the lags... for the most part (the nunchuck fight and the staircase fight still went on too long by half).

The setup for the 2nd one isn't all that complex either.

He gave a marker. He has to honor it. He gets betrayed. He gets revenge.

I like it more because it's beautifully shot.

Almost everyone in Indonesia (especially the young ones) will know 'The Raid'

I was quoting this for years after it released. Freaking masterpiece.

Sure, but his characters in Shutter Island and Inception are different

I’m talking grounded in comparison to the other 3 I was never implying that the action in JW is anywhere near realistic. Also the first one does not have any super insane reality bending action. Obviously fights in real life do not look like a John Wick fight.

John Wick films minus 20 minutes that can be tacked on post credits as a gift to fans would hit the sweet spot

%100 agree with your praise and critique of 4 especially the short changing of the High Table.

I disagree. While the first one is brisk. I love the subsequent sequels building of lore. The action scenes are more impressive. The Cinematography is definitely better. Most of the supporting characters are more interesting. Same thing With the villains.

My ranking is

1. John Wick Part 2

2. John Wick Part 4

3. John Wick Part 3

4. John Wick Part 1

I hope The Duffers don't bother with a Star Wars product.

The next thing they have coming up is an adaptation of a Stephen King Novel and a Stranger Things Spin-Off.

I think there were also working on a live adaptation of an Anime as well.

2 is the best, I haven't seen 4 yet.

John Wick always was a comic book concept. The first one tried to play it straight, and was more art-house-y, but I felt like the suit hadn't quite fit yet. 2 turned the franchise more to its pulpy influences--fun but it wasn't completely ridiculous yet. 3 is when it really started to go ham on the lore and backstory, which is great for fanboys who love that stuff, but imo it made a simple, streamlined action franchise more closer to the average mainstream blockbuster.

Also, Halle Berry was just awful in 3

Well i highly recommend that you watch the originals along with class act which also stars kid n play

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My opinion is that John Wick 2 is the best out of the four.

I enjoyed John Wick 4, but I left the theatre yesterday feeling a little underwhelmed with the end of the story.

The action set pieces in JW4 are amazing and set the standard for every action movie that comes out gong forward.

The story though in JW4 just didn’t hit, and the conclusion for John Wick and High Table felt kinda short changed. It final outcome didn’t bother me either….I just can’t put my finger on it exactly why I wasn’t sold on the ending.

Either way fantastic set of movies throughout that stepped it up each and every time.

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