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Also in Delco. PECO (gas/electric) runs $200-$250 in high consumption months and $150 in lower months. Our water is around $40/month.

Probably cheaper if you go 219 and stay closer to the NY border

I don't disagree, was just wondering if it was being reported in the same way.

322 is between 15 and 219. I’m not sure your end destination but I think bellefonte is worth going to more than Altoona/clearfield. Not to mention state college is nearby if you wanted to see a large college town

Yeah luckily i dont have a change in my schedule

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We need some more details to figure out your situation. What are the rates for electric, gas, and water that you're paying? How high do you set your thermostat, and how big and old is your house?

Also I have to laugh at the idea that in Utah you were using a sprinkler most days and it didn't cost you. It's no wonder that state, along with the other western desert states are running out water and going dry if that's case.

I have a 1600ish Sqft row house and my total in utilities is about $250 a month.

PECO for electric is $0.09727 per kWh

PGW for gas is $0.82282 per Ccf

PWD rates for water/sewer which they make needlessly hard to find but 4ccf is $69 bucks.

We live north of Toronto, so either the Peace Bridge or Rainbow Bridge would work.

If you’re going through Williamsport- there is a Wegmans. Otherwise it’s pretty even.

What part of Ontario? Where'd you plan on crossing the border?

I saw a lot of them in Philly last year, they definitely haven't gone away. We need to train the birds to go after them more.

I’m in Delaware County not too far from Philadelphia and my gas/electric is 170 my water is about 80 per month. Been these prices for at least 4-5 yrs, I’ve not had any major changes

Bellefonte seems like it would take me a fair bit off route, no?

Pennsylvania is a massive state with a bunch of different climates and housing stock. Utilities are not expensive in PA. There must be something unusual about your situation. I live in Philly and I pay about $250 for all that, and this has to be one of the most expensive areas to live in the state.

And takes 322 most of the way

Or if going western, you could always stay in Bellefonte which is quaint scenic and has good food

Stay in Lewisburg

Because only one player gets to be named. The other 2 can continue to be their usual arsehole selves in anonymity.

We should not be hounding the parent just because the son cannot behave himself in a lawful manner.

He is bumping up against the NCAA age limitation. Then he'll either have to ditch the bitch in the bottle or... he'll end up a drunk with repeat brushes with the law.

I was IT support, during regular day shift we did some office desktop support work but after hours and weekend was purely manufacturing control systems support (SCADAS, QA stations, production & EPA monitoring, etc out on the lines.

Like you not tiring, I enjoyed the work but it was feast or famine, and famine was boring. Add to that having to change sleep schedule mid work week made it a struggle to not fall asleep waiting for a call.

Please give more specifics about your living situation. Because even in the more expensive areas of PA, that is overpaying. I pay around 200-300 a month for all my utilities depending on the month. That’s for a 3 bedroom house in Lancaster, PA.

Looks like NJ is resuming their inmate trash collection program. May be hope for PA (haven't looked that up yet) https://www.state.nj.us/transportation/uploads/comm/news/details/comm_np_20210503_161932_NJDOTInmateLitterandAdopt-A-HighwayProgramsbeginasLittercampaigncontinues.pdf

Can't find anything official about PA, just this one complaint letter to the editor https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/opinion/2023/02/a-drive-down-route-33-is-all-it-takes-to-see-the-littering-problem-on-pas-highways-letter.html

Theoretically, yes. In practice, demand just brings increased costs and the promise of future supply which never materializes.