Recent comments in /f/Pennsylvania
Shad0wSmurf t1_jbsxirk wrote
Reply to comment by CltAltAcctDel in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
Okay, no, I follow you. If federal employees are exempted from permits then why is there distinction in LEOSA - which you said didn't apply -
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(36 C.F.R. §§ 2.4(e) & (h), 18 U.S.C. § 922(q)) allow for individuals carrying concealed in accordance with the laws of the state in which the federal park or GFSZ is located to carry concealed in them*; however, an individual carrying under LEOSA is carrying under FEDERAL LAW and not in accordance with the laws of the state they are in.
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What this means is that you are NOT exempted from carrying a concealed firearm in these areas UNLESS you are on official duty or possess a valid and qualifying state issued concealed carry permit.
Because if they DON'T have a license, LEOSA which is the authorization to carry by the Federal Government, for federal employees, then they would need a permit to carry in those zones in the states that require Concealed Carry being off duty is not in the employees authorized capacity?
EDIT: PA CSA 18. 912(c) - I'm assuming you're referring to " * or other lawful duty"
if they don't have a pa permit and are not in the scope of their duties, do they have to observe federal law or state. Meaning do they need to carry under federal law with LEOSA because they don't have a permit in the state and are subject to the laws of the state they are in, and are NOT exempted from GFZ with LEOSA?
DisciplineShot2872 t1_jbswrjh wrote
Reply to comment by RealLiveKindness in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
Be aware that Philadelphia has some crazy laws about knives. It's mostly illegal to carry one within city limits. I spent most of my life with a Swiss Army Knife in my pocket, but that's a crime here, and I'm not relying on Krasner's discretion to avoid trouble.
From the city's Municipal Code:
§ 10-820. Cutting Weapons in Public Places. 269
(1) Definition.
Cutting Weapon. Any knife or other cutting instrument which can be used as a weapon that has a cutting edge similar to that of a knife. No tool or instrument commonly or ordinarily used in a trade, profession or calling shall be considered a cutting weapon while actually being used in the active exercise of that trade, profession or calling.
(2) Prohibited Conduct. No person shall use or possess any cutting weapon upon the public streets or upon any public property at any time.
(a) Exception: This restriction shall not apply to the use and possession of cutting tools by emergency personnel of the Philadelphia Fire Department, whether on or off duty. 270
(3) Penalty. The penalty for violation of this Section shall be a fine of not less than three hundred dollars ($300) and imprisonment of not less than ninety days.
BurghPuppies t1_jbsvopx wrote
Reply to comment by RealLiveKindness in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
I mean… it’s right there in the name
BurghPuppies t1_jbsvli8 wrote
Reply to comment by WCAIS_PA_Individual in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
Don’t they apprehend people?
MongolianCluster t1_jbsvdwi wrote
Reply to comment by Amazing_Rutabaga4049 in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
They detect them, they don't investigate them. It's right there in the name.
classy-mother-pupper t1_jbsvcdu wrote
Reply to comment by RealLiveKindness in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
I carry bear spray and a taser every time I take my dog for a walk. She’s been attacked twice by off leash dogs with zero recall. Last one nearly killed her and cost the owner quite a bit of money. That dog lost its life cuz of a crap owner that couldn’t control their dog.
CltAltAcctDel t1_jbsuyqa wrote
Reply to comment by Shad0wSmurf in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
6106 exempts her from permit requirements. I pointed you to the section.
Duly authorized federal employees are exempt from permits. Duly authorized doesn’t require her to be on duty. Merely being authorized to carry by her agency is sufficient. Have badge; can carry
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Shad0wSmurf t1_jbsu42n wrote
Reply to comment by defusted in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
The dogs. That's quoted from the article. You asked what that had to do with it. It was from the article, and again, it never mentioned her having a permit.
defusted t1_jbstzmf wrote
Reply to comment by Shad0wSmurf in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
>not even talking about how illegal having the gun in Philadelphia that is
This you?
Shad0wSmurf t1_jbstwce wrote
Reply to comment by CltAltAcctDel in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
Even if she doesn't have a permit?
Shad0wSmurf t1_jbstmjp wrote
Reply to comment by defusted in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
Anyone can, if they have a permit. Nothing said they did. Never even mentioned it. And what you're referring to was a direct quote from the article...
Farleymcg t1_jbstkqv wrote
Good. Fucking people need to control their animals.
Dog people are weird.
defusted t1_jbst6kc wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
Everything you just said is wrong.
First, if it was a service dog it never would have left the owners side. But that doesn't matter because the agent isn't going to say "pardon me, is your dog that's currently mauling my dog a service animal?"
Second, having a gun in Philadelphia is perfectly legal for anyone, all you need is a conceal and carry permit. I'm not sure what other dogs on leash has anything to do with that.
Third, I don't know if you know this, but when a pitbull attacks it's almost impossible to make it stop.
What you should be asking is why was the owner of the pitbull ignoring it's violent behavior. Neighbors of the dog said this wasn't the first attack.
RealLiveKindness t1_jbsrk4z wrote
Reply to comment by WCAIS_PA_Individual in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
Forbidden drive during the summer owner swim their pups in Wissahickon creak off leash. My dog was attacked by a group of loose dogs and injured. After that I won’t go there without being prepared.
penguinchem13 t1_jbsrjes wrote
Reply to PA TikToker Who Admitted To Killing Her Wheelchair Bound Sister Learns Her Fate: DA by jillianpikora
good ol perfect, rich Manheim Twp.
[deleted] t1_jbsr8lb wrote
Reply to comment by seantimejumpaa in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
Lmaoooo right? The hunting knife cracked me up, like alright Dwight Schrute
RealLiveKindness t1_jbsr0r9 wrote
Reply to comment by seantimejumpaa in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
Fairmount park & Forbidden drive.
RealLiveKindness t1_jbsqwen wrote
Reply to comment by Weary_Ad7119 in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
That or get attacked by some off leash out of control antisocial dog.
Shad0wSmurf t1_jbsqf6n wrote
Reply to comment by ficknerich in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
That would have been nice to have in the original article. Dogs lunge all the time when walking past other dogs.
Thanks
ficknerich t1_jbsq4t5 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
Just because I think the article might be confusing, when it says that she shot "the other dog", they're not referring to the one of two dogs passing by that didn't attack. She shot the attacking dog, which was a pitbull.
> Roh said surveillance video indicated that Maguire had been sitting on a bench when the pit bull rushed forward and pulled the dog off her lap, causing Maguire to intervene and try to separate the animals before drawing her weapon and shooting the pit bull in its hindquarters at close range.
From The Inquirer.
[deleted] t1_jbspxlx wrote
Reply to comment by Radiant_Ad_6565 in PA TikToker Who Admitted To Killing Her Wheelchair Bound Sister Learns Her Fate: DA by jillianpikora
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Radiant_Ad_6565 t1_jbsplvr wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in PA TikToker Who Admitted To Killing Her Wheelchair Bound Sister Learns Her Fate: DA by jillianpikora
In other words, you drew a conclusion and formed an opinion without having all the available facts.
JesusOfBeer t1_jbsycs6 wrote
Reply to comment by Shad0wSmurf in FBI agent who shot, killed dog in Philadelphia will not face charges by StavrosKatsopolis
Oh you mean the “Gun-Free School Zone Act” which was deemed unconstitutional in the 90’s?
Stop making shit up.