Recent comments in /f/Pennsylvania

ronreadingpa t1_jboq5ol wrote

Can't speak for California. In PA more roads and lanes often do help. I know from personal experience.

Induced demand is an issue, but not building new roads / adding lanes isn't the answer either. It needs to be a combination of better road infrastructure and other transportation options along with coordinating zoning across municipalities.

In my view, among the most promising is on-demand public transit. Instead of full-size buses running on a fixed routes, using a mix of vehicles from vans to full-size buses instead with flexible routes. Closest analogy would be Uber Pool. If done right, many would use it.

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jbonjco wrote

Nobody lives in the areas served by this proposed freeway. Why piss away over a billion dollars to put a highway from nowhere to nowhere in?
 
According to Google Maps it takes sixteen minutes to drive from Selinsgrove to Middleburg. How much shorter a commute are you looking for here?

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Zenith2017 t1_jbon0xg wrote

Uh, this already exists dude, maybe do a little googling next time. You get pulled over, officer may claim they detect marijuana, you get tested or refuse and get detained. And since there's no way to differentiate recent use from currently being high, you're pretty much at their mercy even if you're 100% sober at the time of the incident. I might have been high last night, but the next afternoon a test will just show the presence of THC, regardless of my current state.

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69FunnyNumberGuy420 t1_jbomoh4 wrote

> More lanes often do help.

 
No, they don't.
https://www.planetizen.com/definition/induced-demand

 
Read this book:
https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780865477506/suburbannation
 
In a nutshell, the problem is that our road network works on a trunk-and-feeder system. You've got a great many surface feeder streets and roads feeding into a limited number of high speed trunk highways. Adding more lanes to a freeway will not work as long as the feeder lanes exceed the trunk lanes.
 
https://dot.ca.gov/-/media/dot-media/programs/research-innovation-system-information/documents/final-reports/10-12-2015-ncst_brief_inducedtravel_cs6_v3.pdf

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/06/us/widen-highways-traffic.html

 
California has been adding lanes to LA-area freeways for decades at this point and it's only made traffic worse.

 
> Not going to change your mind, but pointing this out for others. Many PA residents want and demand more highways.

 
Many PA residents don't know what they actually want. What they actually want is to not spend so much time in their cars, because driving is a shitty boring chore. Adding lanes won't do that for them.

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ronreadingpa t1_jbom9u2 wrote

One can dream. About the best we'll get is roundabouts. Lots of them. Oh, and the speed limit will be posted artificially low (ie. 45 instead of 55) like is on the quasi-limited access bypass they built about a decade ago south of Allentown. It's better than before, but it's 2nd rate compared to what many other places have.

Some in Berks like that it's not well connected to the north. They don't want more development and like Berks County the way it is; prefer it stay a backwater. Can't totally fault that sentiment either.

It's interesting how fast similar projects get done down in Chester County. What is a 6 month project there takes 2-3 years in Berks. Oh, they're resuming the ongoing milling and repaving work Rt 222 around the Mall in a couple of weeks. Maybe they'll finish this year, but not so sure.

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ronreadingpa t1_jbok1tt wrote

More lanes often do help. When they completed the RT 222 conversion to a 4-lane limited access highway back around 2007 (delayed about 40 years), getting to Lancaster County from Reading area became much easier and faster. Also, traffic on surrounding back roads decreased. Even 15+ years later, it's still better than before.

Some don't like cars and that's fine, but more roads and lanes, on the whole, do help. Anyone doubting that should look at how long it used to take to drive across Pennsylvania before the PA turnpike and other highways, such as I-80, were built.

I remember the days before the Blue Route was built (started in the 60s and finally opened around 1990). Getting to the Philadelphia airport was a nightmare. Some will point out the nasty traffic jams on there as a proof that more highways / lanes don't help. However, the main reason for the jams around milepost 9 is due to be only 2 lanes each way instead of 3 lanes as originally proposed. Traffic on the 3-lane northern section generally moves well.

Not going to change your mind, but pointing this out for others. Many PA residents want and demand more highways. Not only that, many are willing to pay extra tolls (begrudgingly) if that's what it takes to get them built. Many people value their time and want flexibility in travel. Difficult to take camping gear or lumber on the bus. Renting a car sounds good, but is very expensive and not guaranteed (may not get a car or isn't the type expected), but I digress.

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pvtshoebox t1_jboaqoc wrote

Someone came to the door and asked if there was an emergency. We explained the situation and we were denied. I was shocked - my female partner more so. We were from a private ambulance company.

In all honesty, we used the patient's bathroom at their house. If it were just me, it might have been different, but I thought that would be unfair to my partner

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No-Setting9690 t1_jbo546q wrote

Umm what?? It happens, he's getting it treated. Wtf is wrong with you. Not only is he capable, but this makes him more of an average american than most politicians. You think people cannot have any sort of physical or mental health problem? I think all of Congress falls into that category.

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