Recent comments in /f/Newark
Rainbowrobb t1_ize1un7 wrote
Reply to comment by ahtasva in Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
The city needs more housing. Most cities need more housing. If it's not a historical society fighting it, it is the local residents fighting it. The Ironbound had regulations designed to preserve it's unique (to the city) asthetic. There needs to be a balance between the investors frothing for profits and the residents who will see their community leveled and then be asked to compensate for the additional financial strain via their property taxes increasing due to incentives handed to those frothing investors.
I've wondered (not really) why developers don't look to the north ward where several old giant homes are increasingly deteriorating. The park is right there, multiple light rail stops, a full grocery store is right on Mt Prospect so in a drug store. But we wouldn't want to upset those neighbors, so let's go after where the actual culture of the city is.
>Baraka has “admitted” that development will raise taxes for homeowners; exactly how , no one apparently knows. The article is predictably thin on facts and thick with innuendo and fear mongering.
Likely the same reason I've mentioned in this sub before. It's common for high density construction to be handed a multi decade property tax abatements on the "improvement"(actual building). This would be a smaller example, but as more towers are constructed, more tax revenue will be needed. Since they don't get the funds from the new construction, they have to increase it from those properties that do pay. That's not fear mongering without substance.
>The argument that change will “ destroy the neighborhood” is exactly the type of arguments racist segregationist used to justify restrictive covenants to stop blacks from moving into the suburbs. Now the reverse is true; what a clown world we live in.
The term you're searching for in this instance is gentrification.
>Building is 2 blocks from Penn station, how is increasing density so close to transit a bad thing. This building is not unique. There are millions of such units spreed across cities in the eastern seaboard. This design was essentially the Bayonne box of the 1900’s. The city needs more housing, revenues , businesses and jobs. How do we do this without creating more housing stock?
Presently, there is still a large portion of the Ironbound that recent immigrated here. They work and live their lives in the area. Developers have eyed Newark for some time now as the next stop for people who have been priced out of JC and Hoboken and Newark politicians have been happy to issue tax abatements and affordable units waivers to accommodate them.
If they want to knock down existing occupied housing, they should have to double the number of affordable housing units included. This would encourage locals to be residents instead of New Yorkers looking for cheaper housing near a train station.
VroomRutabaga t1_izdwz5l wrote
Reply to comment by Rainbowrobb in Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
Bingo
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Reply to comment by Rainbowrobb in Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
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thebruns t1_izd0fh3 wrote
Reply to comment by poete_idris in Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
Looks ugly to me
surrealchemist t1_izcxsa1 wrote
Reply to Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
With Penn station near by they are just going to put up these kind of generic things to market to NYC commuters. https://www.115bruen.com Whoever moves in will save money but then it will probably be a premium for the city driving prices in general up.
GhostOfRobertTreat t1_izcm8pr wrote
Reply to Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
Sad to see a nice building go but we need more housing especially near Penn. If we try to preserve every old building, we won’t be able to accommodate the people who want to move here and rent pressure will continue to get worse and worse. Maybe we should look to preserve some areas of the neighborhood that have special significance or have a density of historic features like Bruen between Green and Elm but we can’t say demolition of every old building is bad.
GhostOfRobertTreat t1_izcl9mi wrote
Reply to comment by Marv95 in Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
Because this isn’t SimCity and the owners of this property don’t own the other one.
Marv95 t1_izchauj wrote
Reply to Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
I don't get why it can't be built on top of the huge parking lot up the street.
ahtasva t1_izccj5p wrote
Reply to Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
What does the ironbound being the jewelry capital of the world 120 years ago have to do with a decision on whether or not to allow development today?
Will halting development in the neighborhood bring back the jewelers? Yet another article written by the uncritical for the uncritical. The argument that change will “ destroy the neighborhood” is exactly the type of arguments racist segregationist used to justify restrictive covenants to stop blacks from moving into the suburbs. Now the reverse is true; what a clown world we live in.
Baraka has “admitted” that development will raise taxes for homeowners; exactly how , no one apparently knows. The article is predictably thin on facts and thick with innuendo and fear mongering.
Building is 2 blocks from Penn station, how is increasing density so close to transit a bad thing. This building is not unique. There are millions of such units spreed across cities in the eastern seaboard. This design was essentially the Bayonne box of the 1900’s. The city needs more housing, revenues , businesses and jobs. How do we do this without creating more housing stock?
The lady who is upset is a planning lawyer who makes her living working for the township of Wayne. Probably owns property nearby and is upset that she won’t be able to find parking as easily. Talk about fair and balanced perspectives in reporting.
poete_idris t1_izccfch wrote
Reply to Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
Ugh it’s such a beautiful house too. Newark has some lovely architecture but it’s sparse enough without being torn down to be replaced by ugly modern buildings.
Rainbowrobb t1_izcc5qc wrote
Reply to Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
“The Ironbound is being destroyed,” said Lisa Scorsolini, a neighborhood resident since 2004.
The residents have been fighting to maintain the ironbound and prevent the ironbound from turning into the next SodaSopa in the name of progress.
The city has been trying to bulldoze the old row houses for years. They aren't even dilapidated like some buildings other recent development projects would demolish. Developers see a pending hipster paradise and want to capitalize on the proximity to Penn station. So people can live "in the Ironbound" and work in Manhattan while never crossing McCarter.
sutisuc t1_izc8rzp wrote
Reply to Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
Oh damn, figured this one would be on the chopping block. Feel bad for the current residents. Hopefully it doesn’t go through
toughguy375 t1_izc7xii wrote
Reply to Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
It's a beautiful house, I hope it can be replicated somewhere in a lower density part of the city. But we need more housing close to the train station.
ahtasva t1_izb6n9v wrote
Reply to comment by Kalebxtentacion in Landmark Church in Newark’s Lincoln Park Could Be Converted in Apartments by Kalebxtentacion
City council should pass a resolution to reject the ruling by the HPC. Tyrants win when we let them.
DrixxYBoat t1_izak2r2 wrote
Good game guys, we fought a good fight but this project is prolly dead.
Jimmy_kong253 t1_iza31ok wrote
Reply to Landmark Church in Newark’s Lincoln Park Could Be Converted in Apartments by Kalebxtentacion
This is why they need more plaques on these historical places like nobody would ever have known the historical significance of this church if it wasn't for the article
Kalebxtentacion OP t1_iz9utoa wrote
Reply to comment by ahtasva in Landmark Church in Newark’s Lincoln Park Could Be Converted in Apartments by Kalebxtentacion
Well that’s a great opinion and very understandable but the HPC won’t share the same opinion as you and judging on how they approve and not approve things I have a feeling that it won’t happen but who’s knows. If an old bank building with no purpose can get an approval can this more interesting and building structure get one too
ahtasva t1_iz9ufl3 wrote
Reply to comment by Kalebxtentacion in Landmark Church in Newark’s Lincoln Park Could Be Converted in Apartments by Kalebxtentacion
What is the significance of the Lincoln having spoken here to anyone that is alive today? Will demolishing the spires and using the land to build something that actually looks decent and is affordable some how bring back slavery? The arguments for the preservation of old building is founded on a selective sense of nostalgia that primarily benefits those who are already wealthy.
The arc tower is supposed to be built on a site that used to house on old time bank. Next to it is a fried chicken joint. How many of the patrons of that fried chicken place do you think look at the old building and marvel at its architecture? How many of the folks that walk by on their way to the light rail station after working their second or third job give a single fuck what building stands there? My guess is the answer is zero.
Almost every building of true historical significance is already well preserved. Historical preservation today is a virtue signal pure play. Upper class and wealthy assholes showing off to their fiends that they know how to discern the “finer” things in life.
Extreme_Standard_934 t1_iz9slaa wrote
Reply to comment by Ironboundian in Landmark Church in Newark’s Lincoln Park Could Be Converted in Apartments by Kalebxtentacion
The something new in the back should match the façade in architectural style, though. Perhaps it’s just unclear in the rendering, but this looks ridiculous to me.
Ironboundian t1_iz955lm wrote
Reply to Landmark Church in Newark’s Lincoln Park Could Be Converted in Apartments by Kalebxtentacion
I agree with the ghost It’s been a facade barely standing up for several decades. All of the previous proposals have imagined keeping the façade and something new In the back.
GhostOfRobertTreat t1_iz80hu5 wrote
Reply to comment by Kalebxtentacion in Landmark Church in Newark’s Lincoln Park Could Be Converted in Apartments by Kalebxtentacion
This isn’t a demo though. The facade would be preserved.
Kalebxtentacion OP t1_iz7t03p wrote
Reply to Landmark Church in Newark’s Lincoln Park Could Be Converted in Apartments by Kalebxtentacion
The fact that a president spoke here once, one that many people believed freed and ended slavery it’s going to be a huge up hill battle for the developer to get this passed through the HPC. If The Arc tower is having problems trying to demolish a building that has no importance to the neighborhood or itself didn’t get approved I wouldn’t imagine this too but these days anything can happen and sometimes nothing.
EarlAttlee t1_iz6joif wrote
Reply to comment by TrafficSNAFU in Landmark Church in Newark’s Lincoln Park Could Be Converted in Apartments by Kalebxtentacion
Same, I pass the building everyday and always wondered.
felsonj t1_iz69dgq wrote
Reply to Landmark Church in Newark’s Lincoln Park Could Be Converted in Apartments by Kalebxtentacion
Although I'm not keen on the design, I hope this moves forward. I am really puzzled by the design choices here though.
Rainbowrobb t1_ize260x wrote
Reply to comment by surrealchemist in Application to Tear Down Century-Old Ironbound Row House for 11-Story Tower to Be Heard | Jersey Digs by calambre10
This. People who have been priced out of Brooklyn, JC, and Hoboken will love it. And they'll never cross McCarter hwy. If they knock down existing housing occupied in the last x years, they should have to make 50% of the units "affordable" and not market rate