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Kalebxtentacion t1_j7kz1z8 wrote

I wonder why the tower was downsized, I originally thought the city just didn’t want tall buildings. The funny thing is if the tower was 44 stories that would had been the jump start for a new wave of taller development, but now we got halo and hopefully arc for that now.

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Ironboundian t1_j7kmqzs wrote

One Theater Square was decreased in size due to economics, not the historic comission.

"Conceived in 2005 to have 28 stories, the project was later revised to reach 44 stories, and then re-drawn again for 22 stories."

https://www.nj.com/essex/2018/10/newark_rising_22-story_tower_opens_in_brick_city.html

and

"Lawrence P. Goldman, former NJPAC CEO who leads the arts center’s redevelopment corporation, said the continuing economic slump has both delayed and forced a downsizing of One Theater Square."

https://www.nj.com/essex/2012/09/high-rise_near_njpac_in_newark.html

I'm not saying the Landmarks Comission is perfect....but it's unfair to say they had anything to do with the final size of the NJPAC tower

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Newarkguy1836 t1_j7k8uxz wrote

James St SHOULD dissolve. What a bunch of self righteous garbage!

Among the testimonial bs...

  • "We don't oppose the tower, we just want it shorter..."

  • "Those aren't really "affordable units"....

  • "Where will they park? Walk 1000 feet? OMG! The 1,000 foot walk inconvenience exposed these morons as elitist scum that whose lives revolve around the auto! What's 1,000 ft from the ark tower? Newark Public Library. St Michael's Hospital. McGovern's Bar, the new Prudential Building and swahili's restaurant across from njpac. The idea of walking a block to a parking lot offended James Street people as if you asked for jelly instead of "Grey Poupon"!

*The complaints of gentrification were complete joke given every single James Street person was an old elitist White Collar professionals. Some even architects. Not one person speaking from James Street was blue collar.

  • One lady went unhinged & started the whole Black & brown (apparently the left has married Hispanics to blacks & we are now a last name to "black". 'Blacks & brown this" " Black &Brown that") ..will suffee if Arc got approved. *I didn't know so many Jewish residents live in the James Street area, you would think they were the ones opposing, but most were in favor.
  • you had this one white clown from Union Street, nowhere near Ark. He look like a burnout LOL, and he opposed the project based on parking. Because obviously he to relies on his automobile and has never heard of mass transit. In the end, it was a win for ark tower & the city.
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Nathanial_Jones t1_j7k0biv wrote

There is value imo for historic preservation and having a community group to advocate for it, but it becomes an absolute joke when they utilize that position to obstinentinly object to good projects on grounds entirely unrelated to that issue.

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Marv95 t1_j7juqca wrote

"If this board approves this project, then the historic commission should just dissolve itself because clearly we don't matter."

Because you don't matter, nor should you matter. Go away. You're holding downtown and the city back along with the dregs. Time to move forward. Hopefully they don't decrease the size of this thing like they did with Theater Square.

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felsonj OP t1_j7j4sol wrote

After considerable debate, including statements from HPC and James St representatives in opposition and powerful statements by Kaleb, Drixxon, recnilcram, Gamezilla -- among others -- in favor, the Planning Board voted 7 - 1 to approve this project.

Next up: How long will it take the City to demolish the existing derelict buildings so they can get started in earnest?

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NeoLephty t1_j7hcpp2 wrote

This is an asinine comment. Helping the current residents of the city doesn’t make Newark a “24sq mile welfare hotel”… whatever that means.

You should read a bit about how investments into communities have guaranteed economic returns. Make cities more walkable? More commerce emerges. Make transportation better and free? More people freely move about to commercial centers without clogging streets with cars and traffic. Provide housing and social services? More people have the capacity for work, paying taxes, buying products and housing, having children, getting educated, and leaving our streets safer and cleaner.

It’s all basically guaranteed based on multiple historical reference points from multiple parts of not just this country, but the world. It’s not even up for debate.

Or we can keep building residential towers like New York City and MAYBE we’ll have some huge companies headquartered here and the employees of those companies might drop a couple of penny’s on our homeless as they step over them on their commute home. Again, historical evidence everywhere.

If you REALLY want the city to succeed, you should want the city government to be the backbone helping the PEOPLE of the city MAKE it succeed.

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Newarkguy1836 t1_j7hbeva wrote

Developers have to lobby lending institutions. They're the ones who set the rules on what theyll lend & what rates of repayment. You need profit to repay the banks & have money to pay themselves & all parties involved. If the math doesn't work out & leads to break even or red, it ain't happening.

That's why it was infuriating when I read some commie Newark official tell Newark developers seeking to save the Riviera Hotel "We don't go by math & e economics alone. People need to live there". As if Newark is supposed to be a 24sq mi. Welfare hotel!

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