Commifornia, Oregon, Washington, Massachusetts, Illinois

They are pretty. But their leadership is very poor and there is a lot of ugliness too. I'd rather just go way up north here in Maine or in NH over upstate NY, Or visit Idaho, Wyoming or Montana over the west coast options

You can add Indiana to the list. Turning into the Florida of the Midwest at a fast clip here, which is why we’re leaving for Maine.

These are all beautiful states. Ever been to upstate NY? Great mountains and plenty of nature.

Old school as it sounds, around here you'll have better luck on Craigslist. That seems to be where the musicians around these parts do most of their networking for band members.

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I see this all the time, this idea that only "skilled" labor is worth anything (and as if dealing with customers without gouging their eyes out isn't a skill)

Labor is labor. There is no company without those workers. There's no profit without them. They are the value. Why should the value they generate only go to the top?

lol

But all this garbage with Chipotle was happening during the pandemic, when businesses WERE actually hiring people off the street because they desperately needed the help. At that time, you could have pretty much walked in to anywhere you wanted to work (and not just fast food places or the like) and they'd hire you in an instant. I'm talking 2020 and 2021, possibly even the beginning of 2022.

Thankfully I'm in a job where I don't need to worry about wanting to apply for another one, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that what you described is happening right now. It wasn't when the bad conditions at Chipotle started.

Florida, Texas

I know of one musician. I will pass this post along to him.

Have you applied for a job recently? Every place says that they are hiring, but that is just to placate the overworked staff they currently have. ‘Look we’re trying, no one wants to work anymore!’ I know many people job hunting that have filled out dozens of applications only to get zero calls for interviews.

True, especially NJ. HI is way out there not too worried about them

You forgot NJ and HI

They should leave Apple Pay or Venmo info on that sign... who carries cash anymore

Definitely California

Covenants and other deed finagling can be undone if you have a good enough lawyer and are stubborn enough. That's how my hometown lost its swimming hole; it got bought by jackasses who bought the land, took the matter to court multiple times, and finally found/bought a judge who ruled in their favor. Tore down the historic schoolhouse that was on the property, put up "No Trespassing" signs everywhere, and built a crappy ranch house with beige vinyl siding. Oddly enough, they didn't last long in the town.

Your case sounds different though, so it could be less trouble and your neighbours are much less likely to hate you, especially if you have extra eggs available at reasonable prices.

I didn't "blame" anybody - re-read my very first sentence.

I'm asking why - during a time when every single business on the planet was desperate for help and paying just as much as (if not more than) the clowns at Chipotle were paying their employees - why these employees thought continuing to work there despite the deplorable conditions was their best option.

I mean, I don't know about you and your financial life, but if I'm at ANY job where I'm not getting paid on time or at all, I'm outta there real fast. At the end of the day, I need to work to get paid. I'm not doing it out of the goodness of my heart.

Then you add on those other conditions that were reported that made working there "less than ideal", and for me it just doesn't add up. I'm glad the workers got compensation for their troubles, but now tell us what was REALLY going on there, why it was such an amazing place to work under those conditions I stated above. THAT's what I'm really interested to find out and will continue to ask. It makes zero sense to me.

Edit to add: And don't get me wrong, I'm not at all anti-union - I have a public sector union job and am a paying member of the union as a matter of fact - and I 100% support the rights of these workers to unionize and they deserve every cent of compensation they can get from Chipotle for having gone through this entire ordeal.

None of that changes the fact that there were very strange things happening here, WAY before the union-busting tactics.

Massachusetts, New York, California, Oregon, Washington

There's a nickname for people from Ohio. "FIFO" If I get 69 up votes I'll tell you what it means 😁

That's $18 quart.

Stellar!

Phenomenal!! 😍

Waterville.

Look at the logo for this sub, then look at the tree. Coincidence?