Recent comments in /f/Maine

ecco-domenica t1_jdc59c8 wrote

There are several on Facebook. I know people can be reluctant to use Facebook and god knows I understand, but it's really how small town Maine communicates. Luckily, it's easy enough to block the unpleasant people and just tune in to the positive ones.

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seanwalter54321 t1_jdc19tu wrote

Reply to comment by Betty2theWhite in Maine's Energy future by mainething

You’ll get downvoted but you seem to be the only one here that knows what they’re talking about. The price per MWH will actually go in the negatives making you have to shut down your main power suppliers when the suns out, then a cloud goes by, these things drop their output by 70% and now all the sudden things need to be up and running again. Without battery storage these things are creating disasters for grid stability.

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onzie9 t1_jdbzh0h wrote

I can't say I miss Caribou, but I do have fond memories. I have no real reason to ever visit, but I'm planning to visit Maine in general for the 2024 solar eclipse, so maybe I'll end up in my old stomping grounds just for fun. I haven't been up there since 2008.

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thehonorablechairman t1_jdbr775 wrote

Reply to comment by jarnhestur in Maine's Energy future by mainething

Yes, China needs to modernize, that's why they're building a shit ton of solar panels, and it seems to be working pretty well so far.

US also needs to modernize, maybe we could also build a shit ton of solar panels, since it seems to be working in other places.

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Betty2theWhite t1_jdbjpmk wrote

The problem is solar panels aren't lightening the load. Solar panels work when we have the least amount of load. We'd still need all the other means of energy production for dusk to dawn. And those other means of power can't be shut down by a flip of a switch, and they can only be idled down so far if at all.

Solar is good, but it won't be great until we have energy storage.

So really, how?

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Betty2theWhite t1_jdbi15c wrote

People leading you away from just solar panels are your friends. Solar panels can't fix the world right now, we don't have adequate energy storage, especially in Maine where we have massive needs for power at the exact times solar stops producing. The duck curve just doesn't allow for it

In fact I'd argue only adding solar panels wouldn't change prices at all. Power plants are super costly to shut down and start up, and they have set flexibility in how much or little output they can sustain. So we can't just shut them off when the solar panels start producing and turn them back on when we need the power, and it turns out we consume the most power right before and right after solar panels produce.

All a massive solar panel project would do, right now, is flood the market with power at the times we need the least amount of power.

Now lunar panels, that's what we need.

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Betty2theWhite t1_jdbh3wq wrote

Reply to comment by StarbeamII in Maine's Energy future by mainething

Pretty sure you could get the time and cost way down by reestablishing maine Yankee and not building from scratch.

Solar and wind have time and costs associated as well, and adding in batteries to combat Maines duck curve would add a metric fuck ton of cost, if it was even feasible.

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GRADIUSIC_CYBER t1_jdbfimo wrote

Reply to comment by StarbeamII in Maine's Energy future by mainething

I think if we built a bunch of nuclear plants, the cost would be less. and if they weren't criminally mismanaged like vogtle and vc summer (literally, in the case of vc summer) it's certainly possible, plenty of other countries have built new reactors in the last 40 years.

also I don't think cost is the number one obstacle. New England already has the most expensive electricity in the nation, (outside of Hawaii where you don't need heat or air conditioning), and we refuse to do collectively agree to do anything about it.

I do support a combination of renewables and nuclear.

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StarbeamII t1_jdbd68e wrote

The only US nuclear power plant under construction (Vogtle 3 and 4 in Georgia) will cost more than $30 billion for 2234MW and has taken over 13 years to build. Hinkley Point C in the UK will cost £32.7 billion for 3200MW and will take over 11 years to build. Right now it's straight up not a feasible solution unless you can get the costs and time way down.

Solar and wind, even with batteries, are a fraction of the cost.

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