Sarah’s confirmed NYT carrier

Corner marts like Sarah's Market (Concord and Huron) and Montrose Spa (Mass Ave) tend to carry it. Would imagine others in the city do, as well.

Wow. So many major disadvantages to prioritizing safety. /s--clearly

If we're going to quote, how about the disadvantages:

> the Handbook of Road Safety Measures recommends that four-way stops are best used between minor roads away from urbanized areas

and

> Some of the disadvantages associated with all-way stops are: > > * Increased emissions of hydrocarbons.[9]: 431–433 > * Increased average delay.[9]: 430 > * Increased wear on vehicle brakes > * Discouraging bicycling.[10]

Many years ago I picked one up in a gas station on Mass ave near central / MIT. No idea if they would still be sold there, or other gas stations.

I mean...

> for use at low traffic-volume locations, the arrangement is common in the United States, Canada, Mexico, South Africa, and Liberia, as well as in a number of, usually rural, locations in Australia where visibility on the junction approaches is particularly poor.

is pretty dead on for Cambridge.

And I noticed you missed a couple of countries....

We also don't have many roundabouts, and never will have as many as other countries where they're more common. This doesn't seem like a fair comparison when the roads are completely different in other countries.

In most countries stop signs are quite rare - like you can go days without seeing one, so kind of, yes.

But I was talking about all-way stops, which are only in N. America, Liberia, and S. Africa, because they are inefficient and unhelpful.

The rest of the world shuns stop signs?

I have a low to the ground car and only have issues when I'm going too fast. I recommend slowing down.

Ugh, no, traffic calming should not be by creating endless stop-and-start, creating extra noise and pollution. Other forms of traffic calming are superior to adding yet more of the most idiotic traffic control layout known to man (that almost the entire rest of the world rightly shuns).

Never seen a low-slung work truck? What sort of work trucks have lower ground clearance than a car?

As for cars, if you lower your car and now it can't get around, I think that's on you. They put violent speed bumps in Somerville and while people whine about them all the time, the only people I've ever seen scraping their cars were going way too fast. Ironically, weirdly often in Priuses, though friends who driver Priuses say they have zero problems because they slow down for the bumps.

Giving up the right of way by treating a two way stop as a four-way stop can be confusing to other drivers and it’s not recommended. One of the best things you can do as a driver is be predictable.

Grocery stores are a good bet—the last time I needed one, I was able to find it at Star Market.

No. Because ambulances and other first responder vehicles.

More stop signs that the drivers here will ignore, hurray!

Please not speed bumps those of us with low cars and/or work trucks can’t get over them easily and have to cross at an angle, which is not ideal

Because we're the ones who get hit.

Drivers on Franklin have their view obstructed by the Cosmic Moose and they don't stop until they clear it if at all, which is far too often too late for the pedestrians they didn't see. They are so busy looking past the fence to see oncoming traffic beyond it that they completely ignore the crosswalk.

People in the neighborhood both drive and walk. Where else should they put the sign?

Am I the only one questioning why they have to advertise it to pedestrians?

I lived a block away for 9.5 years and heard screeching brakes and honking all day every day, plus several T-bone accidents. Some were so bad that they’d have to close the street. The city has known about that intersection and never acted — I wrote on the SeeClickFix site about it numerous times and they responded that they “moved the stop sign further up,” which I don’t think they ever did. Glad they’re finally doing something about it, but man, it took a fucking long time.

You could enforce it by widening the sidewalk on those turns so that it's physically impossible to park there. That seems to be the preferred solution for intersections, anyway. It does cost money though. May not be practical immediately.

Why not both?

Other options include speed bumps

It's the enforcing that seems to be the issue.

Marking (and enforcing) 10 yards of "no parking" before / after every intersection would work wonders. It's mostly the cars that block vision.

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