Recent comments in /f/CambridgeMA

ClarkFable t1_j3sjsbe wrote

Small triangle is going to be landscaped greenspace (see page 45) https://www.cambridgema.gov/-/media/Files/CDD/Transportation/Projects/obrienhwy/finaldesignplans.pdf

I don't think any structure has been approved for the rest of the site where the old station sat. I think originally it was going to be retail. It's in private hands now, so you'd think there is no way it would remain greenspace (unless Cambridge purchases the land back), but all I see is a huge mound of dirt being built up there.

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This_Cantabrigian t1_j3sfw66 wrote

It’s gonna be a CVS, a bank, a barbershop, a nail salon, and an Indian restaurant that is always empty but never goes out of business. They want to keep it in theme with the rest of Cambridge St. Oh, and another Dunks cause the nearest one is two blocks away.

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Effective_Golf_3311 t1_j3s2wbx wrote

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WaitForItTheMongols t1_j3s1n3h wrote

Yes, someone fleeing from the police in that situation is clearly a danger who should be apprehended. I wish he would have checked himself into a mental hospital. I don't want anyone who's experiencing the state you describe to continue running around the city.

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Harmony_w OP t1_j3s0mdz wrote

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SethRogans_Laugh t1_j3rr767 wrote

Living in fantasy land. It’s beyond ridiculous.

Functioning Brain: “Oh a man is running around at people with a machete! Call the police.”

Cambridge: “No you racist bigot. Let him do what he wants if he hurts you you probably deserved it!”

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TheSausageKing t1_j3r6g8n wrote

I didn't realize that. I assumed because Boston and Somerville did, Cambridge did as well. Googling it, it looks like the city has been considering it. Once obstacle is it violates the surveillance tech ordinance:

> In 2018 and after two years of discussion, Cambridge passed a comprehensive Surveillance Technology Ordinance that at the time was one of the “most collaborative and progressive in the nation and the first of its kind on the East Coast.” > The goal of the ordinance was to ensure city government doesn’t engage in unwarranted surveillance, said then-Councilor Craig Kelley. > While police cruiser dashboard cameras are exempt under the ordinance, body worn cameras are not.

https://www.wickedlocal.com/story/cambridge-chronicle-tab/2021/06/07/cambridge-one-step-closer-outfitting-police-body-cameras/7542729002/

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Rindan t1_j3r2xbu wrote

Let's see the police cam footage then. That should clear everything up.

Oh right, there is none.

The problem is a complete and total lack of police accountability. They might have been in the right, but we will never know because the police's absolute number one job above all else, is to protect the police. That's why we don't have footage of this shooting despite the fact that there isn't a single good reason for that.

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Lurking4Justice t1_j3r1v39 wrote

Reply to comment by some1saveusnow in CPD shooting by unclechuqule

People who carry guns and have legal authority to kill people should have a higher tolerance for danger and exposure to harm than the average citizen.

This case is fucked up but if you're asking for my honest opinion then if a fucked up badly injured guy with a machete is running at you you should tackle him and risk being injured because you're paid to protect people from danger not to kill.

I genuinely think that if we saw more cops getting black eyes and broken ribs in 85% of these cases then the 15% where they use force would be more understandable because we see with our own eyes that the cops are putting it on the line routinely and not just because it's the easiest course of action.

Like cops are supposed to be heroes. If your first reaction isn't how do I fix this without killing them you're a bad cop. And this whole idea of acceptable risk highlights the gap in public perception of the responsibility of an officer vs the actual job description which doesn't require one to protect and serve their community. That job culture makes it hard not to see police shootings as expedience in the best scenario.

I work emergency services, I don't carry a gun and end up in dangerous situations sometimes. I also work closely with police on some responses...I don't think this guy was necessarily wrong to fire based on department criteria, but fuck me why are you a cop if you can't conjure the nerve to risk injury or worse...why is that not the point of this job?

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WaitForItTheMongols t1_j3r004y wrote

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WaitForItTheMongols t1_j3qzuuf wrote

Tasers are unfortunately prone to failure, and their range is limited. You need two barbs to fly through the air, both strike their target and stick, and for neither wire to break. Generally, the distance they're effective over is comparable to the distance that someone can get you with a knife faster than you can react. The rule of thumb is that a person with a knife will beat you, if they initiate their attack from less than 21 feet - 21 feet is about the length of 3 long strides plus an outstretched arm, which someone can do in 1 second. So police are supposed to never let a knife-wielder get within 21 feet of them, which is about how far a taser is useful. The police statements say they used sponge rounds against the victim, which had no effect on him. They couldn't do anything else to get him to drop the knife, and eventually when he came at them, they were left without a choice but to defend themselves with their last available option.

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WaitForItTheMongols t1_j3qxx4s wrote

While the story from the police is questionable, the story from his family is definitely misleading. Their gofundme page says that "The footage shows him running away from the police, not engaging or attacking them. "

Frankly, that's absurd. You can't say someone fleeing law enforcement while in possession of a deadly weapon is an innocent victim. This guy presented a clear and active danger to the community, and needed to be dealt with. The cops chasing him is what I would hope would happen. I definitely don't want to live in a city where people can run around with 10 inch knives and we all have to say "Yeah, that's Knifey Jim, we can't do anything about him".

If he approached police while in possession of the knife, that's a problem, because it puts their safety at risk. They tried sponge rounds, which failed to make him stop. If he closed the distance, they need to be able to protect themselves - we can't create a world where if I want to kill a cop, all I have to do is hold a knife to myself until the final moment when I strike.

This guy was clearly not in a proper mental state, and it would be great if we could improve our social services to have intervened before he got to this point. But once he's jumping out of windows and running around with knives, I don't think the police did anything wrong. The real protest shouldn't be about police brutality, because I don't see what use of force was unwarranted here. What we should be protesting is why mental health services are impossible to access - if you wanted to get a therapist today, you'd need to call dozens of offices and have them say "Sorry, Dr. Wiggenstein is not taking new patients at this time", before eventually finding one, that doesn't take your insurance, and charges $300 a session, with earliest availability in 3 months. That needs to change.

We need to subsidize mental health treatment and make it something anyone can access smoothly, quickly, and easily. That's how you catch these issues before they go from issue to crisis.

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