Yeah we can hope but I sure don’t predict that’ll be the case. In the last 4 years Apple have shown than an integrated chipset outpeforms a collection of CPU, RAM and graphics all hooked to a motherboard. So just for example, if the futute of laptops is integrated chips then this sucker is done for. Done. Redundant. And that’s just 1 thing that might change beyond their ability to keep up.

I’m not against the notion but I really don’t think it’s an effective idea in the real world.

I mean I do marketing/PR for work but my only disclosure is I’m a happy customer

We have a bunch from Takeya- ours came from Costco. Replacement lids are available, they also take Hydroflask lids. I like the screw-off spout lid (has a small drinking spout with an attached screw top plus a wide mouth) because it is easy to clean and also less messy to drink from- I personally hate straws

They don't have a clue how much has changed in the last 20 years. I have worked in IT since the late 1990s and it is laughable to think that a device from even 10 years ago would still be able to be used today and that is just because of advancements in the tech. The pace of change is slower then it was 20 years ago mostly becuase the hardware is so powerful there is not much more an average person can do with a device. So desktop computers are used far longer than they were 20 years ago but I don't have many businesses still running 10+ year old computers even if they are still working fine. I think they are conflating electronics like speakers with computers/tech stuff when those are vastly different things.

There can be future updates you know. I can only hope they would make future advancements that you can swap in.

This has to be an ad disguised as a post.

I agree that everything is true as it is said but this is written in a way only an ad would be.

What are you doubting? I didn’t say that material is less durable.. I said that washing machines and dryers are harder on clothing than hand washing.

Interesting comparison given my career but nearly every mini-spilt comes with the refrigerant included, and you typically have to weigh in some extra depending how long the lines are.

It used to be.

I would ask you to look a bit at my post history. I'm an electrical engineer who specializes in keeping old equipment up and running. A 20 year life cycle is good but it is still not what I would consider BFL. Even spare parts sitting on a shelf go bad.

Old programs used to work off of punch cards, and before screens outputs would be printed on long sheets of paper. You just don't find parts for that kind of equipment anymore. Instead you scrap it and build an emulator. Look there will be a time when the last mechanical hard drive fails and the last 3.5 inch floppy is forever demagnetized, and that is ok as long as you don't wait to the last minute to transfer essential functions.

I would say that the definition of "high quality" when it comes to clothes is just that - how long they last. But does a high price equal high quality? No

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Yeah I was excited at the possibility of 3d printing custom made lego pieces to hold the computer chips that would make up my google ara modular phone. It could of been great. Sigh.

You could just stay 5 -7 years behind tech-wise and when you go to upgrade the laptop, salvage what peripherals you want to keep using and either repurpose, sell or keep as a spare if the environmental impact is the issue for you.

You don't even seem to know what you are commenting about. How is a keyboard going to be too slow? Is a metal frame going to be incompatible with future CPUs?

Also for a lot of applications not much power is even needed, so even if it wasn't a good ideal to be able to use parts of a laptop forever you can still get a long life out of an old laptop. That is basically what the entire Chromebook segment is. And things like USB are going nowhere but even if it does, the basic computer busses almost never change, you can still use PS2/serial keyboards on PC because when you get down to it everything converts to basic PCI busses.

As per electronics in general, I have 15 year old speakers, they are excellent and I see no reason to get rid of them. Why do I have to just because you say electronics aren't bifl? I have an audio interface that is years old and I cant see that being obsolescent since its xlr plug has been around for 100 years.

Seriously this entire sub exists because electronics were buy it for life, lightbulbs lasted basically forever and this cost companies money, so they made them die. That is why this sub needs to exist. Now you are giving the very reason for the existence of this sub a pass...? Why?

I like the concept but they are too expensive and the replacement parts are also too expensive. If there was a thriving second hand parts market it could be feasible for some, but it's just too niche for that to happen.

I am very familiar with the framework laptop

I just don't think laptops go obsolete fast enough that this is the laptop for most people.

You're confusing two different issues here. Planned obsolescence and artificial control of products shortening life spans artificially is different than trying to design something that lasts forever. Do you know how hard it is to get parts from 40 years ago? Just because electronics don't move does not mean there is not ware on the components. Batteries die and corrupt stored memory, old capacitors leak acid destroying the PCB around the part, shorts damage multilayer boards so you cannot see the full damage. Faster digital speeds gets into RF territory requiring specific trace sizes for timing and impedance control, meaning repair by jumper is only possible on low speed systems.

In short the faster more powerful electronics become obsolete at their jobs faster. PCs fit in this category. Even if your hardware is good you will be out paced by software needing more memory and more processing power. This being said, there is no reason to restrict someone from fixing a bad circuit on their coffee maker.

That's if the company stays afloat, and at some point if you replace everything, it's not even the same computer anymore and to me it seems you may even end up dumping way more money into it.

It would be an entirely different thing if such modular construction was standardized and used by everyone, but that is extremely unlikely to happen.

I usually just want something that actually blocks the harsh weather. Something that actually functions as intended: to keep you protected from the elements be it the sun or the rain or the snow or the winds.

So far, wool’s been my shield of choice. Ooooooo, there should be a brand called “Shield of Choice”.

Anyway, it came down to wearing a lot of clothes and thinking they’d work for its intended purpose, but, unfortunately, they all did not get the job done. I was either left too cold in the winters or too sweaty in the summers (and I run hot). Layering wouldn’t help either because then I’d be too hot.

Recently found my dream clothes after 20+ years of unnecessary suffering in the cold/heat.

So for me, quality = functionality.

No computer or laptop is ever bifl. Ever. BIFL means just some maintanance here and there, or no maintanance at all. Computers and laptops become outdated and sluggish on average within 3 to 5 years of manufacture if you're going to be pushing the hardware for, say, rendering, video editing, compiling, etc. Meaning you're going to have to replace some parts (for Desktop PCs it's usually either the GPU or CPU), which framework doesn't enable without either getting a whole new mobo or you getting a used better one from ebay or Craigslist.

The lowest cost mobo/cpu if you wanted to upgrade would be £820 for me for the i5-1250P cpu, which is obtainable in low end £400 and, sometimes, even shitty and flimsy £300 laptops. ANY laptop will last 3 to 5 years (the average desktop replacement/upgrade rate) if you treat it right, even if you push it to its limits. And at that point, where a cpu upgrade is worth double the amount of a brand new laptop with the same cpu? Or the alternative cpu that will come out in 3 or 4 or 5 years time? I just don't see the point.

Repairability is nice, but if I have to keep repairing it, it's not very BIFL, is it? I mean, you can repair most normal laptops whether that be screen, keyboard, track pack, new USB ports, etc, if you actually decide to sit down and spend a few hours following YouTube tutorials.

Don't get me wrong, I love the framework platform. I love the modularity, it reminds me of the modular phones that were released YEARS back that everyone thought were going to last you a lifetime too. And I also love the fact that you can do ANYTHING to the laptop too, if you want to modify it, just buy the inside hardware and make a liquid-cooled pc built into your desk, or smash it onto the back of your monitor on your desk because you hate cables, you can do it all. But I genuinely don't believe this is BIFL, nor does repairability make it so.

I’m not sure you get the concept of the framework. You can upgrade and replace the internal and external components as needed. From the chassis to the motherboard to the keyboard and anything in between.

Get DIY and put your own components in and save 50%. That’s exactly what I did.

This is why you can upgrade the internals as needed. That’s the concept of the company.

I feel like your post is one of someone that just reads the headline of something but not the article.

Interesting take. I do photo and video editing on mine…