AllClad is the only cookware worth buying in that category

My field of reference is mostly laptops where the thin and light competition made them way worse in terms of modularity, repairability, expandability and general reliability.

Could you elaborate? From my experience the newer phones has been pretty great, much better in terms of both hardware and software reliability than the iphone 5 I had ages ago.

The Ballarini Professionale 3000 series is a great little 2-pan selection of carbon steel. Carbon is a little trickier to get a good season on because it doesn't have the porosity or surface finish of regular modern cast iron, but you can season it The exact same way as cast iron in the oven with a film of vegetable shortening on it.

The Cuisinart MCP-12n cookware set has also been a fantastic budget set of tri-ply stainless/aluminum pans for me. Been using them for years and have zero regrets.

360 Cookware is fantastic

My household only has SS all clad (d3 and d5) and oxo pro non stick. I love my collection

Nothing much different than a warranty inspection really. It's just a different model where they have to prove it's working rather than you proving it's not working.

Okay so there’s an annual inspection cost built in now and yet trust me, the plot thickens from there on out. Your problems are just starting.

What I’m saying is that an ongoing trust relationship on a large scale is very costly to manage and enforce.

So when you add that model to buying a toaster or something it seems impractical to me.

Cars seem really ideal because a regular official inspection is part of running a car (in most countries), wastage and inefficiency in the auto industry dwarfs tech items and domestic white goods by the mass of material and consumption involved, the costs are high and what’s at stake through unreliability is high.

So as an idea for cars, I like it I think. Maybe worth the hassle there.

Ah now I understand. They can verify it once a year before the recurring payment.

I’d recommend stainless steel. Tried and true, can last forever. Most folks on here will recommend All Clad if you can swing it, as they have a lifetime warranty and are arguably the best quality for the money.

I recently bought an All Clad D3 set and am super happy with it so far. Cooks evenly, well balanced, easy enough to clean. And I don’t see a reason why it won’t last for life. I hope this helps.

I don’t think you quite get me. Problem 1 is they will claim it’s broke when it hasn’t.

How do you prove that it’s broke at all? Might be working just fine.

So they say it broke and then no more yearly fee?

With a one year warranty they can claim it only before the recurring payment scheme starts. After that they have nothing to claim they either pay if the product is still functional or they don't pay and they don't have a product. That leaves the company with half the income if it breaks after the 1 year warranty expires.

So I was thinking of the scenario where customer buys an ‘X’ and then would be paying annually while it still works. Then they claim the ‘Y’ has broke on it and so don’t need to pay the annual fee.

So does the company take their word for that?

Or do they send someome out to inspect it? (V.Costly)

Does they try and have the product posted? (Can be problematic depending on the product)

I won’t go on and on but it would seem that there are questions that need answers or that yearly fee would be at risk of being undermined in any way it can be.

So warranty or not, after-care service or not, the customer will try and get out of the yearly fee.

Thanks for elaborating. The warranty example is a good one to clarify the difference between the two. The user has no incentive to damage its own device since along with skipping the next payment they will not have a device at all. Maybe a 1 year warranty is only needed with this business model and after that you simply rely on these recurring payments?

I'm really not looking for leather boots and all the shoe stores near me, that's all they carry. I need something more that will flex like a mesh upper. If it's leather they always separate at the sole for me. I bend down a lot.

Mariott, Westin, Fairmont, Ritz-Carleton, Hilton, Four Seasons, St. Regis, and Sheraton all sell their pillows online, it looks like.

Favorite bit ever--was booking a hotel in Portland. "If you like your linens, please feel free to take them home with you. Price sheet brelow."

Thanks and I do appreciate your idea. I was avoiding picking holes in it. But one thing I did notice is that you might have incentivised your customer to manufacture problems with the product, so they don’t have to pay the annual fee. Which may lead to the company, having quite some cost to verify who has a real problem, and who is trying to pull a fast one.

I actually have some experience in the furniture industry on the IT side of things, specifically around complaints about furniture relating to manufacture warranties.

Believe me customers will, in sadly large numbers try and game a system. If it will save the money, or get them a free sofa.

The cost of trying to manage that is very high.

I think your idea is good in essence, but I think like a lot of great ideas they sometimes end up in the long grass when you try to implement them practically.

Perhaps there is a better solution to this? Sometimes difficulties can be overcome, and an idea can work in the end with the correct implementation.

Yeah because it's pre-2020 :) It all started going really bad post 2018.

I understand your point of view. Thinness and lightness have their limitations too. They can't go on forever and definitely there is a trade to be made.

The idea is that you don't pay double or triple but rather get it as affordable as the mainstream ones and then reward the company for each year it lasts. It guarantees fair trade rather than marketing promises.

Idk, my old iPhone is 7+ years old. It’s perfectly useable and is still being supported with new software updates.

Yes but making something modular compromises a lot of other priorities. In general you can’t make something modular without making it worse at the job it has been designed to do right now. Heavier, less waterproof, more expensive, things like that.

I like modular things but I can see how an ipad pro would be worse if everything was designed to be modular.

So of all the things I think modular design works best for, tiny compact advanced tech items are the worst. Such a premium on weight, thinness etc and they advance so fast.

Modular car parts, washing machines, microwaves seems way better. They are big objects, less space/volume crucial, physcially bigger so represent more landfill waste and shipping/resoucres to replace.

So yeah I’d like to see more modular repairable things and I’m willing to pay the extra for it. But I don’t want a big chunky moderate performance phone that is modular. I do want to pay triple for my washing machine and then have it for life.

Also I’m not sure lower prices is the only thing going on here. In my iPad example, it’s the thinness, lightness and external elegance of the thing that would be compromised in making it more modular. They’re selling expensive stuff there based on performance and style and consumers clearly want it.

I agree that modular construction and increased repairability are vital and need improving, circular recycling too. Don’t think it can just be done and there we go problem solved.

Red wing is Chinese junk and has been so for years.

As long as you don't have an arch

All Chinese junk

It's Chinese . Try Danner hiking boots